Pro VI Balls

[SirMilton]

Every time I practice at the driving range at my club I go do past the 300 yard mark and chip and pitch about 100 balls to a practice green. I also look at what balls have been driven past the 300 yard mark. The most common ball I find is the Titleist Pro VI. At the 200 yard mark is a lot of range balls, and at the 250 yard mark the Top Flites rule. Out in the rare area though its Titliests, Pinnacles and a few Precepts - little else.

Since I started used Pro VI balls I have picked up about 15 yards on my drives and a suprisingly straight flight.

[BASHERBAKER69]

thats because they re the best ball on the market by a mile-its the patented technology you know that no one else can have!

[Bignose]

thats because they re the best ball on the market by a mile-

The lack of smileys makes me think that this wasn't intended to be joke -- but it is a funny statement.

You do know that Accushnet (Titleist's parent company) had to pay a settlement to Bridgestone for patent infringement. http://golf-patents.com/2007/10/02/b...t-lawsuit.aspx and that Callaway is suing Accushnet over golf ball patent infringment as well http://golf-patents.com/2008/01/19/c...available.aspx ? That's what makes the quote so funny in that it is indeed patented information, that Titleist used without permission!

[Dent]

Thanks for sharing your sucsess story with titleist golf balls. I feel the same way.

[joseywales]

I want to be a member of your course if they use pro v1's for range balls. Nice!

[Pat007]

There's simple logic to this: beter players play more expensive balls (Pro V1s, Bridgestone, Callaway). Better players tend to hit the ball further, hence the good balls ending up at the end of the range.

[cpht]

HA! I'd agree with that last statement if I didn't know a lot of crappy golfers who use expensive balls. (myself included)

[ctmurrray]

HA! I'd agree with that last statement if I didn't know a lot of crappy golfers who use expensive balls. (myself included)

Yes, but cheapskate bad players use either new cheap top rocks or used PV1's.

[r7 425]

Yes, but cheapskate bad players use either new cheap top rocks or used PV1's.

Yes--read this article under "Ball Bearings" Its cool to get that feedback from a tour player http://www.golfonline.com/golfonline...089696,00.html

[SteelDriver]

Yes--read this article under "Ball Bearings"

Especially when they have no idea what they are talking about.

6. Ball Bearings "Some high-handicappers think they're not ready for expensive, high spin balls. A Pro V1 for a 15-handicapper? Sure. Spin makes the ball go straighter. Think about it: a wedge goes straighter than a 4-iron ." Thats so off base its not even funny. Spin does not help the ball go straighter, its just the opposite. You want a less spinning ball for that. Spin contributes to hooks and slices as well as a power leak. And the reason a wedge goes straight is more loft, not spin. i.e. more loft on a driver is desired by folks who cant keep it on the fairway.

[r7 425]

Not really-it depends on how soft the ball is...Pro-V1's are softer than a box of kleenexes. If you hit a pro-v1 it will spin less because it is on the face LONGER because it is SOFTER---thus the ball will go STRAIGHTER

[SteelDriver]

Not really-it depends on how soft the ball is...Pro-V1's are softer than a box of kleenexes. If you hit a pro-v1 it will spin less because it is on the face LONGER because it is SOFTER---thus the ball will go STRAIGHTER

wrong again... softness contributes to more spin....sorry, thats a fact. Softer balls are desired around the green for more spin, not off the tee. Thats why its so hard to find a nice balance between the two. You get a hard 2 piece like a Cally Warbird or 3piece HX Hot and you will see less spin off the driver with more distance, but less playability around the green due to the lack of spin and feels like a rock off the putter face.

kinda hard to believe a 2 HC'er wouldnt know this basic info. its golf balls 101

[r7 425]

wrong again... softness contributes to more spin....sorry, thats a fact. Softer balls are desired around the green for more spin, not off the tee. Thats why its so hard to find a nice balance between the two. You get a hard 2 piece like a Cally Warbird or 3piece HX Hot and you will see less spin off the driver with more distance, but less playability around the green due to the lack of spin and feels like a rock off the putter face.

No i dont know where you get your information. You can ask Iacas about how softer balls such as the pro v1 have very little spin because they compress more. Its simple science. A ball that stays on the face longer will hold its line because more of the ball's surface area is covered by the face. Why do you think Tim Herron reccomends the Pro V1's to 15 digit handicappers. I know what im talking about

[iacas]

No i dont know where you get your information. You can ask Iacas about how softer balls such as the pro v1 have very little spin because they compress more. Its simple science. A ball that stays on the face longer will hold its line because more of the ball's surface area is covered by the face. Why do you think Tim Herron reccomends the Pro V1's to 15 digit handicappers. I know what im talking about

You're wrong. Softer balls launch lower and spin more.

Tim Herron was wrong too - amateurs impart sidespin, and the more sidespin they impart, the more the ball will curve. All other things being equal, the longer a ball is on the clubface the more it's gonna spin.

kinda hard to believe a 2 HC'er wouldnt know this basic info. its golf balls 101

Agreed.

That's what makes the quote so funny in that it is indeed patented information, that Titleist used without permission!

That's not yet been proven. Several of Callaway's patents may be invalid.

[SteelDriver]

No i dont know where you get your information. You can ask Iacas about how softer balls such as the pro v1 have very little spin because they compress more. Its simple science. A ball that stays on the face longer will hold its line because more of the ball's surface area is covered by the face. Why do you think Tim Herron reccomends the Pro V1's to 15 digit handicappers. I know what im talking about

Tim Herron doesnt know what he talking about. His analogy regarding a wedge vs a 4 iron illustrates that. Again, any pro would know its the extra loft of the wedge that straightens the ball out, not the spin it produces. For a driver, compare a 9 degree to a 10.5 or an 11...same concept.

PV1s are exceptional due to their softness and spin around the green, one of many features most mid to high HCers will not utilize, therefor wont pay for. I am pretty good and I will be the 1st to say that I wont pay the price for the PV1 because im not quite good enough on my short game to maximize its benefits and utilize all it has to offer. I cant make it perform significantly better than a lower priced competing ball to warrant the $$$. The Cally HX HOT does what im capable of making it do and costs less, I'm sure a lot of mid to high HC'rs agree with me there. (on logic, not ball choice). As for spin, its the biggest enemy of the straight ball. Better players can hit just about anything straight, for the rest of us we need the lesser spinning balls. If you have an outside in swing and that ball stays on the face longer as you say, wouldnt that equate to traction and put more spin on the verticle axis resulting in a slice? The hotter off the face the straighter, this will give the club less time to do anything other than transfer its force onto the ball at impact. i guess we'll need to respectfully agree to disagree on this one..... by the way, a 15 digit HCer would be a pretty bad golfer....i knew what u meant, just sounds funny.

[iacas]

i guess we'll need to respectfully agree to disagree on this one.....

There's no need to "agree to disagree" when you're talking about facts. He's wrong. You can agree to stop arguing with him, but that's another thing altogether.

Softer balls spin more and thus curve more. Not opinion - fact.

[BASHERBAKER69]

Some of the pros on tour still use Titleist Tour Balata 90 rather than the Pro v1- there is a strong Swedish contingent who do this because the Pro v1 is too hard for them.-For real softness, nothing can beat the Rextar Pro Model that Faldo used to use.

It is nice to see the top golf companies protecting their ownership rights.

[r7 425]

Tim Herron is right-you can ask any Titleist rep about this. The pro v1's are popular for a reason. He plays on tour for cyring out loud. I think that he would know this. Balls that compress more fly straighter because the MOI is increased.
Check this video out and you see why