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I hear that pitching using longer clubs makes it more difficult, why exactly does longer shafts make it more difficult? Eg dechambeau is pretty average on pitch shots compared to the rest of his game which could be down to him using longer shafts for these shots

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Except ”generating speed” everything is tougher with longer shafts.

That’s why many grip down when they play a short game shot.

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1 hour ago, KevinBlake said:

I hear that pitching using longer clubs makes it more difficult, why exactly does longer shafts make it more difficult? Eg dechambeau is pretty average on pitch shots compared to the rest of his game which could be down to him using longer shafts for these shots

I guess it doesn’t have to be this way, but, in general, short game shots are played the over the ball (or the ball closer to the body) so using a longer shafted club is counterintuitive....but I suppose if you practice with it, one could become proficient. 

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4 hours ago, woodzie264 said:

I guess it doesn’t have to be this way, but, in general, short game shots are played the over the ball (or the ball closer to the body) so using a longer shafted club is counterintuitive....but I suppose if you practice with it, one could become proficient. 

When you say "short game shots are played over the ball (or the ball closer to the body)" do you mean that it wouldn't be the same height as your feet - so most of the time you'd be playing on uneven ground for short game shots, which is more  difficult the longer the shaft is? 

5 hours ago, iacas said:

Except ”generating speed” everything is tougher with longer shafts.

That’s why many grip down when they play a short game shot.

Is there an  advantage is having a faster swing speed for short game shots [eg pitching,chipping, bump & run, knockdown, etc] , or is it really only an advantage in your long game [long irons-driver]?

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1 hour ago, KevinBlake said:

When you say "short game shots are played over the ball (or the ball closer to the body)" do you mean that it wouldn't be the same height as your feet - so most of the time you'd be playing on uneven ground for short game shots, which is more  difficult the longer the shaft is? 

No - that you stand closer to the ball, thus the ball is more under you (as opposed to being out from under you)

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7 hours ago, KevinBlake said:

Is there an  advantage is having a faster swing speed for short game shots [eg pitching,chipping, bump & run, knockdown, etc] , or is it really only an advantage in your long game [long irons-driver]?

No. The short game is more about control, not about speed.

You have more control with a shorter shaft. It's more direct.

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I planned on getting single length clubs which would make my wedges a few inches longer than normal 

 

I've been looking into brysons game since he uses single length clubs and it seems his weaknesd is his pitching game, and a lot of the time when he pitched he had an upright stance (unless when he'd gripping down on the club)

 

Could his upright posture be related to his weakness in pitch shots?

 

 

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I thought we answered this question already.

Yep. Merged.

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On 2/16/2021 at 9:50 PM, KevinBlake said:

I hear that pitching using longer clubs makes it more difficult, why exactly does longer shafts make it more difficult? Eg dechambeau is pretty average on pitch shots compared to the rest of his game which could be down to him using longer shafts for these shots

What is easier, hitting a nail with a hammer than is 1 foot long or one that is 3 feet long? The principal is the same.

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