Jump to content
Note: This thread is 965 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Recommended Posts

I was stunned to see Justin Rose airmail the 18th green (not as stunned as he was) at the RBC on Sunday. Just needing a par to join the "59" club and coming off of a kick-in birdie on the 17th, he was 153 yards away with a great lie and came out with a 5. I have to admit, I would have bet on the 59 after he hit his tee shot especially watching him stick short iron after short iron all day long. As a golf fan, I went from pure excitement to see a historical round to WTF just happened. It was a great round for sure, but he has to be replaying that last shot in his head over and over. Despite the bogey, JR ties the course record and his lowest tournament round.  Anyone else get caught up in the excitement of that moment? 

Cobra LTDx 10.5* | Rad Tour 16.5* | Dark Speed 21* | Titleist U500 4i | T100 5-P | Vokey SM10 50/8* F, 54/10* S,  58/10* S | Scotty Cameron Squareback 1 | Vice Pro+


A year or so ago, I had a thought to write an article that I started some research for but didn't complete.  It's related to Erik's "no sixes" challenge, and I was thinking of how good a score a touring professional can have if they have "no fives" (or worse).  Amazingly, the bogey on 18 was Rose's only five of the day, although he also had a six on a par-5, a score that I think is fairly rare for touring professionals.  This might be worth looking into.

Since I'm already planning to do a lot of writing this summer, maybe I'll get around to writing something about pros with no fives.  I think two rounds in majors last year were "no fives" -- Oosthuizen at the UKBO (second round) and I think Morikawa had one at a major too.  Mike Weir had one at the Senior PGA and there was one at the PGA Club Professional championship too.  And there were several at non-major events, too.

-- Michael | My swing! 

"You think you're Jim Furyk. That's why your phone is never charged." - message from my mother

Driver:  Titleist 915D2.  4-wood:  Titleist 917F2.  Titleist TS2 19 degree hybrid.  Another hybrid in here too.  Irons 5-U, Ping G400.  Wedges negotiable (currently 54 degree Cleveland, 58 degree Titleist) Edel putter. 

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

(edited)
2 hours ago, TourSpoon said:

I was stunned to see Justin Rose airmail the 18th green (not as stunned as he was) at the RBC on Sunday. Just needing a par to join the "59" club and coming off of a kick-in birdie on the 17th, he was 153 yards away with a great lie and came out with a 5

FWIW, he was in the first cut of rough. Not quite the same as the ankle deep rough that was nearby, but certainly deep enough to cause jumpers. Plus IIRC the wind was starting to pick up just a tad too.

Also from 140yds in the rough PGA tour players take on average 3.15 strokes to hole out and from 160 in the rough it's 3.23. Let's split the difference and say that tour players on average are likely right around 3.19 strokes to hole out from 150 in the rough. 

Justin Rose for the season is 91st (was 114 before this past week) in strokes gained approach the green.

 

So we have a middle of the pack approach player, in the rough, with a bit of a breeze, likely some added adrenaline, from a yardage where tour players average needing more than 3 strokes to hole out, and he didn't hole out within 3 shots.

Yes I know that he was playing really really well that day, but in looking at that one specific hole relative to the bigger picture doesn't make it seem as surprising that he didn't make par IMO.

 

I know it's easy to focus on the bogey on the last hole as the reason why he shot a 60 rather than a 59, but IMO the 6 he made on the par 5 9th was worse. 

On that hole he had 111yds left in the fairway hitting his 3rd shot and it took him 4 shots to hole out. The tour average from 120 in the fairway is 2.85. He 3 putted from 31 feet away on the fringe which included missing a 4ft 10in putt. 

That's far worse than making bogey from 153 in the rough IMO.

Edited by klineka
  • Informative 1

Driver: :callaway: Rogue Max ST LS
Woods:  :cobra: Darkspeed LS 3Wood
Irons: :titleist: U505 (3)  :tmade: P770 (4-PW)
Wedges: :callaway: MD3 50   :titleist: SM9 54/58  
Putter: :tmade: Spider X

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

19 minutes ago, klineka said:

FWIW, he was in the first cut of rough. Not quite the same as the ankle deep rough that was nearby, but certainly deep enough to cause jumpers. Plus IIRC the wind was starting to pick up just a tad too.

Also from 140yds in the rough PGA tour players take on average 3.15 strokes to hole out and from 160 in the rough it's 3.23. Let's split the difference and say that tour players on average are likely right around 3.19 strokes to hole out from 150 in the rough. 

Justin Rose for the season is 91st (was 114 before this past week) in strokes gained approach the green.

 

So we have a middle of the pack approach player, in the rough, with a bit of a breeze, likely some added adrenaline, from a yardage where tour players average needing more than 3 strokes to hole out, and he didn't hole out within 3 shots.

Yes I know that he was playing really really well that day, but in looking at that one specific hole relative to the bigger picture doesn't make it seem as surprising that he didn't make par IMO.

 

I know it's easy to focus on the bogey on the last hole as the reason why he shot a 60 rather than a 59, but IMO the 6 he made on the par 5 9th was worse. 

On that hole he had 111yds left in the fairway hitting his 3rd shot and it took him 4 shots to hole out. The tour average from 120 in the fairway is 2.85. He 3 putted from 31 feet away on the fringe which included missing a 4ft 10in putt. 

That's far worse than making bogey from 153 in the rough IMO.

I have never been so disappointed for someone to shoot a 60! He came off so clutch on 17, that it seemed like it was going to be his day. All in all, the final round coverage had the Rory story and the 59 watch which made for a better than average entertainment value for the Tour. 

Cobra LTDx 10.5* | Rad Tour 16.5* | Dark Speed 21* | Titleist U500 4i | T100 5-P | Vokey SM10 50/8* F, 54/10* S,  58/10* S | Scotty Cameron Squareback 1 | Vice Pro+


10 hours ago, TourSpoon said:

I have never been so disappointed for someone to shoot a 60! He came off so clutch on 17, that it seemed like it was going to be his day. All in all, the final round coverage had the Rory story and the 59 watch which made for a better than average entertainment value for the Tour. 

There is someone who I used to be quite fond of who shot a 60, after horseshoeing his final putt on 18.  I think this was in Phoenix a few years ago.

-- Michael | My swing! 

"You think you're Jim Furyk. That's why your phone is never charged." - message from my mother

Driver:  Titleist 915D2.  4-wood:  Titleist 917F2.  Titleist TS2 19 degree hybrid.  Another hybrid in here too.  Irons 5-U, Ping G400.  Wedges negotiable (currently 54 degree Cleveland, 58 degree Titleist) Edel putter. 

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Note: This thread is 965 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Want to join this community?

    We'd love to have you!

    Sign Up
  • TST Partners

    PlayBetter
    TourStriker PlaneMate
    Golfer's Journal
    ShotScope
    The Stack System
    FitForGolf
    FlightScope Mevo
    Direct: Mevo, Mevo+, and Pro Package.

    Coupon Codes (save 10-20%): "IACAS" for Mevo/Stack/FitForGolf, "IACASPLUS" for Mevo+/Pro Package, and "THESANDTRAP" for ShotScope. 15% off TourStriker (no code).
  • Posts

    • Day 16: Groundhog’s Day Plenty of putting through gates today.
    • Welp, 2025 has started off great (sarcasm).  Lingering cough since Jan. 3rd-ish. Now, I was bowling in a tournament this morning, and felt like two cracks / pops in my back near my hip.  Luckily not sudden pain or what not, but my lower back is not happy. It was the weirdest sensation, and  then not feeling the pain I thought would happen. Still, I think I hurt my back in some way. Going into rehab mode now. 😹
    • I had to get my left labrum reconstructed after my second major dislocation a few years back. Recovery for me was 5 months until I could swing. I played at 6 months though infrequently. Maybe 8-9 months didn't feel dicey. Then I had winter and the next season... Wow. I hadn't known how much worse my mechanics were than they could be because I was subconsciously tightening my front should to protect it. Even before the second dislocation it was loose and sloppy. Who knew tightening up and good golf mechanics didn't go great together 😀 I don't know what surgery you're getting, but maybe a potential bright spot for you?
    • Shorter length shaft, more loft… weight shouldn’t have anything to do with it as a fw head weighs more than a driver head.  More backspin could actually hurt because sidespin is part of that.  Something lower spinning will usually go straighter.  If you’re trying to “work the ball” then you want spin.
    • Wordle 1,324 3/6 🟨⬜⬜⬜🟩 🟩⬜🟩⬜⬜ 🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Welcome to TST! Signing up is free, and you'll see fewer ads and can talk with fellow golf enthusiasts! By using TST, you agree to our Terms of Use, our Privacy Policy, and our Guidelines.

The popup will be closed in 10 seconds...