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I am happy to discredit the opinion of this pro that the Callaway is crap and can't be hit straight.That is a worthless opinion.It can be hit straight,thats a fact.

Dave, dude, you're still not getting it.

You were the one to first voice the opinion. I "countered" yours with the experiences of some 90+ golfers, as told to me by one of the best club pros and fitters in PA. You've missed the point, and that point was quite simple: you can't disparage the opinions of others while at the same time talking as though yours is golden. It can't and doesn't work that way. So, let's just drop it. I'm lecturing on semantics and reading comprehension at this point, and that's not what this thread is about.
Phil Mickelson amongst others currently use this club.

He really doesn't. He toyed with it earlier this year, but then moved back to his "standard" 3 and 4 woods - by TaylorMade and Titleist.

Look for yourself if you'd like.
Btw,the hybrid you use,I can't hit straight.I hook the TM into next week.But I would never describe it as crap.Its just me that can't hit it.

And I couldn't hit the non-TP model straight either. But, like Dave said, the TP in 8-8 works beautifully.

On a lighter note,and hopefully we can move on,I like you bag and wouldn't mind your opinion on the 905s (did you move from the 983?) and the 680s,particularly if you've hit the 690s.

905S from 983K, 680s after trying the 690s and finding they hit the ball too high.

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Yep,I'm finding the 690s go high as well,may well give the 680s a whirl.

My only issue was the statement 'the club is crap',which it clearly isn't.Thats an opinion that deserved a counter.But I agree,lets drop it,you have qualified the original statement and I can't argue with 90 players who have crap swings;)

What is the 905 like? I've had an Ignite and didn't get along with the YS-6+ .350 in it,the club was dead as a dormouse.

NC

I tired like hell with the TM but just didn't get along with it.I hit a draw and with that thing it went almost straight left,a bit wierd at first.I may give it another go.The Heavenwood flies too high for use off the tee.Its an arse having to carry a 2 iron as well and dump the lob wedge.

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I'll jump in at this late date to say that the Heavenwoods are an acquired taste. Or, rather, that they work well for some people but not everyone. I can't say what swing characteristics they work best with, but I seem to see "better players" have more luck with them than higher handicappers. I have a friend who plays to a 5 and has two of them in the bag. He uses them like deadly weapons, having replaced his 3-wood and 2-iron with them. This is likely why some of the tour pros have had success with them. They don't hit the ball overly high, and you can work the ball with them. They aren't especially point-and-shoot, and they aren't hook machines (like lots of hybrids).

I, on the other hand, have never had trouble hitting a Callaway club. Until, that is, the Heavenwoods. They just don't work as well for me as some other hybrids (like my Sonartec Md). I'd take a Big Bertha FW of a comparable loft over a Heavenwood hybrid everyday. I think I do better with a more iron-like hybrid, and the Heavenwoods look like small woods to me. Different folks, different strokes.

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Driver: TaylorMade R9 10.5° (Fujikura Motore 65 stiff)
3-wood: Tour Edge Exotics XCG (Aldila DVS Fairway 75 stiff)
hybrid: Sonartec Md 21° (UST Proforce V2 Hybrid 85 stiff)
4-PW: Titleist 755 (Titleist TriSpec Regular)Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design 252.08 bent to 50.5° (Oil...

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Yes,good post.Hybrids definately need extensive testing.I regard myself as a resonable striker of a golf ball,but when testing abiut 15 hybrids they were going pretty much everywhere.Yet I would test some 2 irons and the only variation was height.

The moral of the story is the right hybrid in the right hands is a deadly weapon as you say,the wrong one is just deadly.

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SMT Encore Fuji 26.3 X
Geek DCT 15* Accuflex 80MPT 51Ran Troom Grind 55Rife 2 Bar hybrid


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