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I've noticed that my divots tend to point away from me, producing pushed shots with a dash of fade. I'm wondering if there are any decent drills or some friendly user advice that I could use to help straighten me out.

Thanks!

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Posted
Try to bring the club more straight back instead of so inside.
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Posted
Focus on finishing your swing high instead of to the side

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Compression drills

Excuse my ignorance I've only been in the game for less then a year still, but what are compression drills?

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Posted
Coming from the inside is ok but sounds like that face is open at impact. Somehow it has to get more square to the line. Ball position, stronger grip,etc. .....hard to say unless I can see it. Get some instruction. It's well worth it.


 


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I agree with Doctorfro.

There is nothing wrong with an inside-out swing if it is not severe. Many players, including myself, use a slightly inside-out swing.

It does sound like your main problem may be leaving the clubface open. You need a little more counterclockwise rotation of the clubface before impact.

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I agree with Doctorfro.

Now that you mention it yes, sometimes I notice that I'm not "hitting the ball with the back of my left hand." Maybe I'm holding the club too tight? Will that do it? What are some things that would force your hands to not pronate through impact?

In the bag:

Driver: R580 9.5* Stiff
3 Wood: SQ Sumo 2 15* Stiff
Irons 4-PW/AW/SW: Big Bertha 2008 SteelPutter: 2-BallBalls: Pro-V1


Posted
Now that you mention it yes, sometimes I notice that I'm not "hitting the ball with the back of my left hand." Maybe I'm holding the club too tight? Will that do it? What are some things that would force your hands to not pronate through impact?

A tip that works for me is to try to shake hand with the target. And yes, a tight grip would produce a shot more to the right. My instructor told me, "Remember, TIGHT - RIGHT". Hope this helps.
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A tip that works for me is to try to shake hand with the target. And yes, a tight grip would produce a shot more to the right. My instructor told me, "Remember, TIGHT - RIGHT". Hope this helps.

Sow that is a fantastic quote that I can be sure to remember. Will be hitting the range in a few hours and will be sure to take this with me ;)

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3 Wood: SQ Sumo 2 15* Stiff
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Excuse my ignorance I've only been in the game for less then a year still, but what are compression drills?

I’m sorry - compression drills are a specific set of impact drills to help the golfer hit the ball higher, harder, and straighter (Google it). But let me re-trace my words here. First, you should probably start with a better impact drill; like a toe-up & toe-left drill. You may use any club you wish, but it is recommended that you use your 5-iron. Bring the club back to the first position where the toe of the club is pointing up to the sky (the shaft of the club should be parallel to your waist, but not in line with it), from here you want to swing to “get square at impact.” This will feel awkward at first because this is not a full swing – it’s not even a half swing – it’s a drill. Truncate your follow-through to have the toe of the club pointing left at the completion of this abbreviated swing (visualize a 3 o’clock to 9 o’clock kind of swing) Don’t concern yourself with distance doing this drill, look to have the ball travel straight off the club face – pick a point straight away, and try to hit it. Try five T-U & T-L maneuvers to every, one full swing - and you will achieve the results you seek.

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I’m sorry - compression drills are a specific set of impact drills to help the golfer hit the ball higher, harder, and straighter (Google it). But let me re-trace my words here. First, you should probably start with a better impact drill; like a toe-up & toe-left drill. You may use any club you wish, but it is recommended that you use your 5-iron. Bring the club back to the first position where the toe of the club is pointing up to the sky (the shaft of the club should be parallel to your waist, but not in line with it), from here you want to swing to “get square at impact.” This will feel awkward at first because this is not a full swing – it’s not even a half swing – it’s a drill. Truncate your follow-through to have the toe of the club pointing left at the completion of this abbreviated swing (visualize a 3 o’clock to 9 o’clock kind of swing) Don’t concern yourself with distance doing this drill, look to have the ball travel straight off the club face – pick a point straight away, and try to hit it. Try five T-U & T-L maneuvers to every, one full swing - and you will achieve the results you seek.

That is an awesome drill. I saw a guy on the range the other day doing this when he first got there, after stretching for a long while. He pulled out a mid iron and then hit twenty or so shots like this over a ten minute period. He then began working through his bag with full shots. The last five shots he hit were with driver and they were solidly stuck towering drives. About that time his buddies arrive and they move over to the first tee box. I'm willing to be he took their money every hole.

I'm going to do this when I play next. It sure will get a sore wrist warmed up easily before trying full shots.
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Now that you mention it yes, sometimes I notice that I'm not "hitting the ball with the back of my left hand." Maybe I'm holding the club too tight? Will that do it? What are some things that would force your hands to not pronate through impact?

There are several things that could force an open clubface at impact. If you can post your swing (both face on and down the line) on Swing Academy, that would be best. It would also be helpful to know what your swing keys are.

Some things that could force an open clubface: Weak grip Grip too tight Swinging too upright Ball position Possibly the most likely cause is that your body is not in the correct position at impact. There is an old swing tip that says, “In the downswing, look under the back of your ball.” This causes your head and shoulders to stay back and tilt away from your target as they should. At the same time, it focuses your eyes where they should be. Of course, you can overdo this, so it takes some practice. This may or may not help, depending on what you are doing now.

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