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    • DaveP043
      Been Wondering About This Ruling for Years

      By DaveP043 ·

      Yes, thats still your NPCR.  Your stance might be OB, which is legal, it might be down the cliff, or in water in a Penalty Area, those factors don't disqualify that from being the NPCR. However, once you make that drop, you have a new situation, one for which a left-hand stroke might be reasonable.  As you describe it, if you went further left of the path the ball might be OB if you got your feet off the path in taking a left-handed swing.  If all that is true, your NPCR for a left-hand swing could be on the right side of the path.  Its important to consider a probable sequence of relief situations before you decide to lift the ball to take relief the first time.
    • mdl
      Been Wondering About This Ruling for Years

      By mdl ·

      This is one of the handiest rules of thumb to remember. If relief is free, it's one club length. If it's with penalty, it's two club lengths (or on the line away from the flag when that's allowed). On the OB question, suppose your ball is on the cart path and your reasonable swing setup is right handed and you "have" to take relief (says it's a mini cobblestone path and the ball is sitting down and you're guaranteed to blade it and not really know where it's going, and probably damage your club). Your NPR is left of the path, as it almost always is for a righty. But while the ball can be in bounds, your feet will be across the OB line between the hole and the houses lining the fairway. Is that still an NPR? Are you allowed to take a right handed swing with your feet OB? What if the OB is a cliff or other landscape feature that means you can't stand there? Does a point on the left hand side of the path still count as NPR?
    • Rulesman
      Been Wondering About This Ruling for Years

      By Rulesman ·

      The OP says "under a prickly ugly bush" Not being there and in the absence of a clear photo of the situation, I am not entirely convinced about the reasonableness of the claim. However, DavePo43 is of course correct in all other aspects.  
    • ChetlovesMer
      "5 Minutes Daily" Practice Challenge

      By ChetlovesMer ·

      Day 27: 1/6/2025 Lots of mirror work again today. Went over photos and videos from my last lesson. Trying to get the movements in my priority piece just right.  I'm likely going to be doing more mirror work tomorrow too. Which is fine considering the weather. 
    • DeadMan
      "5 Minutes Daily" Practice Challenge

      By DeadMan ·

      Day 173: Did a stack session. Worked a bit during breaks on backswing stuff.
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