Should I change my swing from stack & tilt?

[Fredguay642]

First off, I have never taken a lesson in my life. The other day Golf Galaxy had an advantage member night where the teaching pro offered free swing analysis. I have never seen my swing on tape until the other night. But the tape showed that I was really close to the correct stack & tilt positions. I had a little reverse pivot and some swing plan issues as well. The teacher teaches the David Leadbetter type golf swing. He gave me some tips, but it was only like a 3 minute lesson.

The reason way I ask is because alot of the things he was telling me are things I use to do. My swing has changed this summer. I don't really know if it is good. I have lost about a club of distance on everything and my driving has be horrible, which in the past was one of my stronger points. But my iron play has been pretty good. I can hit it pretty straight with the stack & tilt, but it is short.

So basically I am leaning to changing my swing but I want to be fully committed so I won't want to change back when I play bad. So please tell me what you think.

P.S. The motivation of this is that I can't break 80. I have plateaued at the low 80s. I have some 38s on 9 holes that add together to lower my handicap, but I can't keep it together for 18.

[powerfade]

I would try to correct that reverse pivot first. It's a swing killer.

Regarding the S&T...how;'s your back?

[Fredguay642]

My back is okay, but it does get sore everynow and then.

[NorCalGolfer]

I've heard a lot of bad things about "stack and tilt driving". a friend of mine uses his old driver swing and stack ant tilt for irons and he does just fine.

[bflat450]

This is because stack and tilt golf swings hit down on the ball, and when your hitting your driver you want to hit up on it.

[NorCalGolfer]

yeah, but charlie wi, steve elkington, aaron baddeley and mike weir seem to make it work. 3 of those 4 were in the final 4 groups at the PGA champ. i'm not saying the stack and tilt driving method is impossible, i'm just saying whatever feels comfortable for him.

[iacas]

yeah, but charlie wi, steve elkington, aaron baddeley and mike weir seem to make it work. 3 of those 4 were in the final 4 groups at the PGA champ. i'm not saying the stack and tilt driving method is impossible, i'm just saying whatever feels comfortable for him.

While true, it's incredibly difficult to fit "low launch, high spin" drivers of the golf ball.

[bigoak]

I hit the irons well. I miss many more fairway wood shots and driving is really good and really bad. I cannot get the feel for these longer clubs. Was having a bad round and went back to my old swing for last 3 holes and had par on all three. hummmm?

[Magnus]

My adivice - stick to one swing and try to engrain it. Its hard enough to get one swing right. Pick one, and give it an honest shot - in terms of overall play time, practice, and committment.

[PEZGolf]

My adivice - stick to one swing and try to engrain it. Its hard enough to get one swing right. Pick one, and give it an honest shot - in terms of overall play time, practice, and committment.

Good advice. I am still opposed to the stack and tilt because of the tendency for players using it to get into a reverse pivot. Although I am a golf instructor, I will NOT teach it. However--------------if it works for a particular player, then you are right----he or she should practice it and get it down pat. It blows my mind that someone can use one swing for the driver and long irons and stack and tilt for the rest of the irons.

[erwintrace08]

Did you mean it blows your mind because it should be a different swing for the driver, long irons and the rest of the irons?

Some have been saying the S&T is great on irons, but not on the driver because it comes down too steep. I'm getting pretty confused. I think the S&T makes sense on the short game though because you are already supposed to be leaning forward on the front foot for chips.

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[erwintrace08]

Hey Guys, I have switched to the S&T now for 3 days. I just got the videos, but was able to figure out the swing from online help (you guys, golf digest, etc.).

One thing I want to warn you is that IF you don't do it right, you can get back strain. Initially, I didn't bring my hands forward and lower my left shoulder. Those are huge keys to this move (besides weight forward and not moving weight back). If you don't, you will try and force the ball to go where you want and will end up putting more pressure on your back.

IF you do lower your hands, bring your left shoulder lower and not force it, the ball will consistently fly! I have never hit my irons so clean ever and boy does the ball launch. It feels about 10 yards further. If you are thinking of switching, I would only do so if you are inconsistent on your ball striking or if you are just looking to try something new.

The biggest benefit that I feel the S&T gives you is like they say, "consistency." I'm not sweeping the ball anymore and now am compressing it.

"I think Mikey likes it..."

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