Playing the ball down,...

[joshtpa]

If you were on the 18th and you needed a birdie to get a great score, and perhaps win the competition, you'd hit the shot, believe me. As for social golf - do whatever you like, just don't claim a score you didn't have. (And by "you" I don't mean you personally.)

But I do believe in 1950 the rule was stated that any player may call any ball unplayable anywhere on the course and the penalty is 1 stroke.

[heyscuba]

Not a chance would I do that. Ill take relief and move on...Its just a game, and I am not willing to ruin my clubs over it.

You're taking free drops from rocks and roots while establishing a .09 handicap???

[Lefty731PM]

But I do believe in 1950 the rule was stated that any player may call any ball unplayable anywhere on the course and the penalty is 1 stroke.

Why the "but"? We're talking about people who take relief but don't take the 1 stroke penalty.

[iacas]

You're taking free drops from rocks and roots while establishing a .09 handicap???

How about the both of you leave each other alone and put each other on your ignore lists. For the last time, you got off on the wrong foot with each other, and until you can learn to forget it, stop.

[mposter]

How do you play a lost ball,...?

I think you need to hit more provisionals! Also, if you *do* play an OB as a lateral hazard, shouldn't you take a 2 stroke penalty to make up for the 'free' distance?

That will teach me to post a quick reply when I am a newbie on a message board!

If there is any doubt about a lost ball, OB, etc I hit a provisional. If the course was empty I would always chose to drive back to the tee, but I play public courses and the few times I tried driving back to the tee I almost had my head handed to me! I have had to accept that it is just not possible to go back to the tee during weekend play. Of course it depends on the match. If I lost a ball in a match play (my Sunday match) I concede the hole. If I lose a ball in a stroke play match and I can not drive back to the original spot (usually possible from any spot but the tee) I will simply post the hole as my maximum ESC. I may be wrong, but I think it is possible to still count a round posting your maximum score for handicap purposes.

[chingali]

The game may be the more important thing in general, but there can be specific instances when you might want to take a penalty stroke rather than damage your equipment. That doesn't mean you don't respect the game. Taking the penalty *is* respecting the game. If you are suggesting people don't avail themselves of all the rules of golf then I think perhaps "the game" we are talking about might not be the same game for each of us.

Sorry mate I didn't read your post correctly. I missed that you were taking your penalty for the unplayable, that's 110% acceptable admirable and correct for me and is totally in the spirit of the game. I have done so lots of times myself not for fear of damaging a club but for avoidance of injury purposes such as tree roots and that kind of thing.

[joshtpa]

That was my thoughts. I have seen people snap a wrist from roots. I will always take the stroke and drop than risk the injury or the damage to my clubs.

[iacas]

I have seen people snap a wrist from roots. I will always take the stroke and drop than risk the injury or the damage to my clubs.

Damage to the club is not the same as damage to the wrist. It's a bit disingenuous to throw the "wrist injury" thing in now - everyone's been talking about chipping a club a little or something.

And I think people got the impression from your earlier posts that you didn't take the penalty stroke.

[heyscuba]

How about the both of you leave each other alone and put each other on your ignore lists. For the last time, you got off on the wrong foot with each other, and until you can learn to forget it, stop.

I'm sorry, but isn't this a discussion board,... I ask you, what does take "relief" mean,...? I don't know for sure but I think in golf terminology "relief" means a free drop, that's why I said what I did and with no personal attack attached, he's on my thread, his prophile boasts his .09 handicap and then he's talking about taking free drops,... no wonder he's a .09

[iacas]

I'm sorry, but isn't this a discussion board,...

Yeah, so? Doesn't mean you have to respond to someone who's already been in a spat with you. Drop it.

his prophile boasts his .09 handicap and then he's talking about taking free drops,... no wonder he's a .09

It's a 0.9, and for the last time, drop whatever problem you have with him. He shall do the same.

[joshtpa]

Damage to the club is not the same as damage to the wrist. It's a bit disingenuous to throw the "wrist injury" thing in now - everyone's been talking about chipping a club a little or something.

I spoke in the previous post as well about not wanting to get an injury.

[Fat Slice]

Sorry mate I didn't read your post correctly. I missed that you were taking your penalty for the unplayable, that's 110% acceptable admirable and correct for me and is totally in the spirit of the game. I have done so lots of times myself not for fear of damaging a club but for avoidance of injury purposes such as tree roots and that kind of thing.

Cheers and no worries :)

I have a friend who kicks, fluffs, and awards himself impossible gimmies. He asks me "are you gonna let me do this?" I always say, "Do what you want to - you're making up your own game with your own rules. If you want to ask me how to play GOLF with the same equipment, feel free anytime..."

[heyscuba]

Cheers and no worries :)

yeah, I feel your pain,... I just hate when they say they beat me,... I just say,... "we'll never know,..."

[907golfer12]

I'm sorry, but isn't this a discussion board,...

Relief in golf does not mean a free drop. In many rules in the rule book for the procedure it will say something along the lines of "you may take relief, with the penalty of X amount of strokes."

Relief just means that you can move away from what ever is making it hard for you to swing, sometimes without penalty, and sometimes with penalty.

[GolferDot]

Well, unless there is a local rule in effect for some strange act of god (snow, flooding etc) I don't know anyone that takes a clean and place or fluffs or whatever you call it. It's just not done in New Zealand money or no money.

If you take a place because you risk injury and not taking the penalty then when your ball hits a tree and ends up in the fairway throw the ball back into the trees.

The rules of golf are there for a reason and if you don't wanna follow em don't play the game make up your own one, just don't disgrace the real golfers by calling it golf.

[Smallville]

I don't know anyone that takes a clean and place or fluffs or whatever you call it. It's just not done in New Zealand money or no money.

Yes it is, you may not do it or you may not know people who admit they do it, but it is done. Everywhere. Even New Zealand.

[tjy355]

Relief in golf does not mean a free drop. In many rules in the rule book for the procedure it will say something along the lines of "you may take relief, with the penalty of X amount of strokes."

Please cite the rule(s) that use the term 'relief' in a penalty situation.

Thank you.

[iacas]

Please cite the rule(s) that use the term 'relief' in a penalty situation.

For one, rule 26-1 is called "Relief for Ball in Water Hazard". So how about that? It's also listed under the general section "Relief Situations and Procedure."

P.S. 26-2 is "Ball Played Within Water Hazard."