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Bunker's Dozen: March 2006


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As some of you have already seen on the main page, we started a ranking system called The Bunker's Dozen. The first week of every month we will do our rankings based on how well golfers are playing combined with how many headlines they are getting. Also, the list will include non-golfers from time-to-time, just depending on how much media attention they are getting.

We think the list is very unique and fun, and I hope everyone reads it and enjoys it along the way.

From now on, I will be taking opinions here at the forum, and I'll base some of my rankings off the responses I get here. That way, the readers of The Sand Trap will be involved as well.

Anyway, if you haven't read the debut of Bunker's Dozen, check it out here: http://thesandtrap.com/archives/thra...march_2006.php

I hope everyone enjoys it! Feel free to comment on it here at the forum.

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Quick addendum: the list is as of the 1st of whatever month we do it in, so Tiger's win at Doral may keep him afloat leading into Augusta in April, or it may not. But it wasn't a factor in the March listings since it took place after March 1.

I think JB Holmes should have been on the list, and even perhaps Bubba Watson, both over at least Retief Goosen and perhaps even Phil, who hasn't done as much yet this year even during his "good weeks" out West and in the desert.

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I think JB Holmes should have been on the list, and even perhaps Bubba Watson, both over at least Retief Goosen and perhaps even Phil, who hasn't done as much yet this year even during his "good weeks" out West and in the desert.

I agree with JB, that rookie win was a big deal, but I would put Camilo over Bubba. Watson's best finish is T3 with 2 top 10s - Villegas as two T2's.

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