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Hello,

I am pretty new to golf and was wondering which Nike Iron Set is best for beginners??

Slingshot OSS
Slingshot 4D
Sumo
Ignite
any other??

Im gonna get them off used off eBay.

thanks!!

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The Nike Ignite are not bad clubs and can probably be found new really cheap. That set comes with a 3Hybrid. The irons are not too bulky either (like I feel the Sumo irons are). They are still forgiving, though. Prior to last year Rory Sabattini was actually playing the Ignite set on tour. My second recommendation of the Nike sets listed would be the Slingshot 4D, just because the irons are not too large. The OSS set is not bad, but they are bigger and the people I know with them have replaced them quickly as they got better.

There are 1-2 sets from just about every equipment manufacturer that is good for new players (except maybe Titleist). It might be worth looking up previous years Golf Digest Hot List (I think 2008 info can still be found online) and look at Game Improvement and Super Game Improvement irons. 2008 list: http://www.golfdigestpromotions.com/features/hotlist/

I would recomend you try to find a golf retailer or driving range that you can try some of these irons out before just purchasing them. Not all clubs are the same and what you like another new player might hate.
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4 Wood: SQ DYMO
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Wedges (51/6*): MP-T Chrome; (56/13): MP-R ChromePutter: White Hot XG 2-Ball CSPreferred Ball: e5+/e7+/B330-RXGPS Unit: NEOPush Cart: 2.0

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I started out with the Slingshot OSS clubs. I really had no complaints with them. I definitely hit my new irons better but I was fitted for them and alot of the flaws in my swing have been fixed. When I first started I also got the OSS sw and actually did real well out of the sand for a beginner.

The only comment I can make on the other clubs is if you go with the sumos - get the full iron set. I like hybrids but I think going with 4-7 hybrid and only have an 8+9 iron is a bit weak. I know for me - the less I rely on my hybrids, the better I can hit my irons.

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From what i've heard and tested, the 4D's are really forgiving and just overall feel great.

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Wedges: X-Forged '09 54-14 and Vokey Spin-Milled 60-7
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Sorry, I am Mizuno mx-25 iron fan for beginners

Titleist 910 D2 9.5 Driver
Titleist 910 F15 & 21 degree fairway wood
Titleist 910 hybrid 24 degree
Mizuno Mp33 5 - PW
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From what I've read online, you should definitely try the 4D's if you're looking to buy Nike irons. Why would you only commit to one company though? I went shopping for clubs on the weekend and I had my mind set on the Callaway X-20's since the end of summer because of all the reviews and articles I had read. I walked out of there with a set of TaylorMade R7's. Although the X-20's felt good, they just didn't compare to how smooth the R7's felt. To top it off the R7's were on sale for $550 so I was stoked! I'd definitely go to a golf store where you can try out the clubs before you buy them.

Good luck!

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Driver/Wood - Callaway Hyper X 10*, Ping G10 (3)
Hybrids - Adams IDEA A3 Boxer (3) 19*, Adams IDEA TECH A4OS (5) 25*
Irons/Wedges - TaylorMade R7 5-PW, Titleist Vokey 52* Gap, 56* Sand and 60* Lob
Putter - Nike Ignite 002

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There are 1-2 sets from just about every equipment manufacturer that is good for new players (except maybe Titleist). .

What about the AP1s?

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3 Wood: i15 15.5 w/ avixcore red stiff
Hybrids: Rescue 09 19, 22 w/ fujikara fit on stiff
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Hello,

well i played the sumos just recently switched actually theyre very good for beginners and as for forgiving ive hit draws off the toe if thats any idea of forgiving

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