Who said "There are two kind of golfers in the world...."

[jcard71]

PGA tour players and hacks...



I think this is soooo true, because tour players are so far and above better than everyone else.

[leec]

I don,t think this is true at all. I know that i will never be able to beat a PGA golfer or even play against one but I can still get in the 70,s now and again and I don,t call myself a hack.

[jcard71]

Yeah, but if we "compare" ourselves to Tour Players than we are hacks....


A single digit is not a "hack" compared to a 36 handicap

[Fourputt]

Yeah, but if we "compare" ourselves to Tour Players than we are hacks....

I totally disagree. You can call yourself a hack, that's your privilege, but but calling some else a hack just because they don't measure up to some standard or bar that you have set in your mind is somewhat offensive. It's certainly unnecessarily confrontational. This is the sort of unfortunate thread that we always seem to get this time of year ( I call them "cabin fever threads") that just ends up in a bunch of pissed off members yelling at each other (figuratively speaking).

I can compare myself to a Tour player and recognize that I'm not as good as he is. That doesn't make me a "hack", just means I'm less talented than he is. Period. I can play against a 20+ handicapper and beat him every time.... doesn't make me a star and him a "hack", just means that I'm more talented than he is. Period. Exclamation point! He may be working his butt off trying to improve, so now he isn't even remotely anything like a "hack". He's a dedicated golfer, and I'll give him all the credit in the world. I sure as hell won't call him childish names.

[RocketSauce]

i disagree as well. PGA Tour players are just so far beyond the rest of us talent-wise thats its crazy. i can shoot in the 70's (and i do almost everytime i play) and i dont consider myself a hack. i remember back when i was learning and shooting in the 100's and yeah, back then i was a hack for sure. i would think that there are 3 or 4 kinds of golfers. but this is just another opinion.

[jcard71]

I totally disagree. You can call yourself a hack, that's your privilege, but but calling some else a hack just because they don't measure up to some standard or bar that you have set in your mind is somewhat offensive. It's certainly unnecessarily confrontational. This is the sort of unfortunate thread that we always seem to get this time of year ( I call them "cabin fever threads") that just ends up in a bunch of pissed off members yelling at each other (figuratively speaking).

I wasnt calling anyone childish names and my original question was does anyone know who coined that phrase... I agree with it; you dont . It's my opinion...that's all. I dont "think" Im a hack, but compared to a tour player I am... Great country this America to be able to have our own opinions and views. This isnt a "cabin" fever thread BTW...

[ks8829]

There are +2 amateur that can play and beat some pro's on tour.

[kingofcars08]

There are +2 amateur that can play and beat some pro's on tour.

absolutely, I have played with a few pro's from the tips and seen them shoot 71 while I shot 76. The difference? They make more 5-15 footers, don't ever three-putt, and they drive in the fairway about 95% of the time. Its a small margin, but in golf, consistincy is EVERYTHING. But they also practice 5 hours a day. I will never be that good, but its possible to compete. Also, they are long, really long, if you arent....its like climbing mount everest insteat of the driveway.

A "hacK" is the guy that takes a divot without moving the ball. IMO

[Fourputt]

I wasnt calling anyone childish names and my original question was does anyone know who coined that phrase...

Because of the way you phrased your "question" it seemed more rhetorical than one that seeks an answer. My answer is no I don't know who coined it, and I don't agree with him either. All such statements do is to try to promote unsatisfactory stereotypes, and in this case the attempt fails completely. There are many more logical divisions or groupings in the hierarchy of golf skills than such a simplistic pair of pigeonholes would allow for. How far below you does one have to be get on your "hack" list, and how do you establish your cutoff point?

In my humble opinion, "hack" is not a measure of degree of difference, "hack" implies compete ineptitude, and not many who so qualify would even be posting on a golf forum.

[Doctorfro]

There are lots of different levels of golfers. I can't compete with scratch golfers. But most of the golfers that I get paired with on a casual weekend round are terrible. That's three levels and there are tour players to consider. Two kinds?