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  RichF said:
Then you need to look

Okay, I'll let you have Maradonna, but can a cheat qualify for the accolade of being 'Biggest Sports Star Ever'?

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  4ringslvr said:
I was thinking about it, is Tiger Woods the biggest sports star ever? How many belong in this category? How many people do you recognize simply from their first name or nickname? MJ, A-Rod, Beckham, The Babe...

A few years back....I would've argued the point and said it was MJ. Now....I tend to agree....Tiger has the worldwide recognition. That smile is easily spotted.

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golf is not a mainstream sport yet.i said Yet.

Tiger is a mainstream athlete, but Golf just does not have the overall apeal to make him the best known ever......

I dont think it can be an american sport either for the same reason....

Who has not heard of Ali.

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I thing the greatest ever was the synchronized swimmer from one of the former Soviet Bloc Countries. She could stay under water and twirl her legs in perfect timing to the other swimmers... amazing. Runner up has to be that Olympian from somewhere in Asia, you know, the one who could twirl the ribbon and jump through the hoola hoop, and catch a bouncing ball with her feet. Sorry guys, I like the female atheletes.

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if we are talking about sports stars in the USA, then youd have to consider MJ, A-Rod, The Babe, Ali, Tiger, Jerry Rice, and Gretzky (obviously there are more but thats a good list). now, if your talking about around the world, then Tiger and Jerry Rice would have to go only because golf and football arent world wide sports. plus, people like Pele, Ronoldino (sp?) and Beckham get added cause soccer is the most popular sport in the world. they wouldnt get recognition is America though because soccer isnt really popular at all here. it depends on of your talking about American sports stars or world wide sports stars.

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  svchiefs19 said:
if we are talking about sports stars in the USA, then youd have to consider MJ, A-Rod, The Babe, Ali, Tiger, Jerry Rice, and Gretzky (obviously there are more but thats a good list). now, if your talking about around the world, then Tiger and Jerry Rice would have to go only because golf and football arent world wide sports. plus, people like Pele, Ronoldino (sp?) and Beckham get added cause soccer is the most popular sport in the world. they wouldnt get recognition is America though because soccer isnt really popular at all here. it depends on of your talking about American sports stars or world wide sports stars.

So, let's get this right: you're putting golf in the same bracket as American football and baseball and saying it

isn't played worldwide?
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golf is not a mainstream sport yet.i said Yet.

Golf

isn't mainstream? Based on....?
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Erm based on that Golf is eliteist , sexist, discriminatory on age and race.

Other than that its simply not a world wide main stream sport....its growing.

Your fromt the UK think about football...how many schoolboys play that....erm everysingle one.....How many people go to games at the weekend...100s of thousands every weekend. Then times that by every country who plays football.....thats a mainstream sport.

Golf in my opinion is not their yet....partly bacause of its own image.

Erm based on that Golf is eliteist , sexist, discriminatory on age and race.

Well, I'll counter that by stating this thread is about

professional sportsmen. And I'd guess that golf, being an all-year activity, has more professional tournaments per country, per year than any other: USA Canada China Hong Kong England Scotland Ireland Wales Australia South Africa Thailand UAE Qatar Malaysia Indonesia Portugal Spain Italy Austria Germany France Sweden Switzerland Japan Okay, so we're missing all South American countries (but who wants to go there anyhow) and African states (ditto), Russia has one or two tournies and unless places like Vietnam, Greenland, Norway chip in then I think we've got 'global' pretty much covered. You'll find a fair % of the world's Top 20 players participating in any of the above countires major tournaments at any one time. Yep - that's global. It can't be compared to football/soccer cos as we all know that is 'the world game', but when you get folks coming on naming guys from basketball, baseball, american football, etc....then the laughter starts....
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  RichF said:
Well, I'll counter that by stating this thread is about

With that Logic Formula one has a claim......but I agree with you to an extent. I still think Golf is not a fully mainstream sport, but Tiger is mainstream..... 1.Ali 2.Maradona

i earlier said that i think ali and pele, due to the fact golf is not a sport of the masses in many parts of the world, i cannot see past Pele to be honest.

None of these americans other than Jordan can even be close, ps any chinese athlete is instantly known buy a lot of people.

David Beckham - now i am not a fan etc etc but i would say this Manchester United have over 1million official chinese members of the fan club, all of who have beckham shirts - a few years back now, what i am saying is he was / is very well known in china i would guess to a much greater extent than tiger given only 20million chinese have what could be considered a european / american lifestyle i would change my answer to beckham.

Not to mention that he is in all sorts of magazines that women buy - so he is known by males and females! doubles the potential audience, i know a lot of women who would have no clue who MJ or Pele are if i showed them a picture.

Still think its Sir Donald Bradman-he has the stats to back it up. Was so far ahead of anyone else in his sport. His records will possibly never be beaten. Cricket as bigger sport as any.

Id say Bradman, Pele, , Woods, Ali, Gump (ping pong) in that order. Only my opinion. You can only be best at your own sport in that particular era-much of it is how the media spin it.

Still think its Sir Donald Bradman

Who?

Seroiusly, nobody watches cricket. Ever. The most popular sport in the world is soccer, by a long way. So it has to be a soccer player. As footballers go, I'd say the biggest star is David Beckham, hands down.
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Pele, Ali, Jesse Owens, OJ (for being known for everything), Jim Thorpe,

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My opinion is Ali and it's not even close. But obviously I'm not saying I'm right.

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Still think its Sir Donald Bradman-he has the stats to back it up. Was so far ahead of anyone else in his sport. His records will possibly never be beaten. Cricket as bigger sport as any...

...in England, Australia, Pakistan, India, New Zealand, South Africa and West Indies.

And that's it . No-one in the USA or rest of Europe or Africa or South America has ever heard of Bradman. And this is a guy who was famous 60 years ago. So, no - Bradman is out.
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  uttexas said:
Pele, Ali, Jesse Owens, OJ (for being known for everything), Jim Thorpe,

Who is Jim Thorpe? Who is Babe Dickrikson?

And Simpson is world-reknowned for stabbing two people to death. So, no, you're way off the mark as well.
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