Bay Hill

[pusher]

Anyone see that guy get beaned by Goosen's errant drive? Fans have got to pay close attention or else risk getting nailed like that, just like sitting in the field level seats at a baseball game. You've got to protect yourself.

[ctw262]

I agree that fans should be paying attention, however there was no FORE, FORE LEFT, nothing. I think it would have atleast given him a heads up......

[roundieryan]

  ctw262 said:

I agree that fans should be paying attention, however there was no FORE, FORE LEFT, nothing. I think it would have atleast given him a heads up......

I saw that too. I also thought it was weird no one yelled fore.

Hope the guy is ok.

[Hitman]

I watched Adam Scott jerk a tee shot right on #7 the par 3 and hit a women and the ball laid in her chair. The only sound I heard was him cuss loudly at the shot. She was ok and he I belive made par on the hole. I followed him ,Kenn Perry and Stewart Cink on thier rounds.

[Jay-Bird]

  pusher said:

Anyone see that guy get beaned by Goosen's errant drive? Fans have got to pay close attention or else risk getting nailed like that, just like sitting in the field level seats at a baseball game. You've got to protect yourself.

Sounded like it hit him in the face!?

______________________________ What's up with Tiger throwing clubs lately? That's twice in two tournaments... Although it seemed to relax him and get him focused. He went on a one-putt streak after that. He even birdied the hole he threw the club on. I loved Arnold's response..."I did that once...in a junior golf tournament" In all fairness though, Bobby Jones used to throw clubs and cuss enough to shame a sailor...

[Hitman]

Tiger in my opinion is a showman and is showing off for the crowd. I was at Bay Hill on Thursday for the opening round and all of the groups on the course had a good following , maybe a few hundred fans each and each hole had the normal green side spectators and then there was the "circus" as allot of people called it,Tigers group had thousands of fans that moved along with him like a plague of locust. They move along the course jumping from hole to hole chewing up everything in their path. Don't get me wrong , he's great , but he is most defiantly showing for the crowd. I liked Arnold's comment on the Golf Chanel about him throwing a club when he was young and what his father said to him about it. My father jumped me when I was young because I beat a club in the ground after a bad shot, and had to play the rest of the round with out that club.

[87vert]

anyone know why Mickelson is not there? or am I just missing him?

[Jay-Bird]

  87vert said:

anyone know why Mickelson is not there? or am I just missing him?

He knows Tiger will win, and he can't handle that right before the Masters.

[Trav]

  Hitman said:

I liked Arnold's comment on the Golf Chanel about him throwing a club when he was young and what his father said to him about it. My father jumped me when I was young because I beat a club in the ground after a bad shot, and had to play the rest of the round with out that club.

Yes, Arnold was pretty clear what he thought about that behavior - note he made a point of saying, repeatedly, that he did it when he was 16. It's great Arnold feels free to speak his mind, I think too many people are worried about offending TW over such incidents. Tiger is a smart guy, I hope he listens and adjusts.

The round showed again how miraculously TW can be at saving difficult situations. You can simply never count this guy out.

[iacas]

  Trav said:

Yes, Arnold was pretty clear what he thought about that behavior - note he made a point of saying, repeatedly, that he did it when he was 16. It's great Arnold feels free to speak his mind, I think too many people are worried about offending TW over such incidents. Tiger is a smart guy, I hope he listens and adjusts.

I don't much care about his club throwing. He threw it down two feet in front of him - he didn't Tommy Bolt it into the crowd or down the fairway or something.

Tiger gets high and he gets low too. His fist pumps are energizing, but so are his mini temper tantrums. Whether he's up or down, he's over it and back to his baseline within ten steps. He gives himself ten steps to stay pissed or excited, then he's done. I like the emotion he shows - good or bad - over the robotic way virtually every other pro handles things. I don't want everyone literally "throwing" clubs around, but I'll take a little more emotion from everyone. Tiger's come close to the line, but in my book, he's never crossed it with the club throwing. He's never been truly discourteous to his playing competitors or the fans (save for those who are "offended" at what amount to small displays of frustration).

[DavidFehertysBike]

I feel like a hypocrite saying this, but i dont like to see professionals throw clubs around. Myself on the other hand, I will actually break a club out of pure anger every now and then. I expect more from a pro, though. Im just a lowly ametuer.

[pusher]

I don't like to see club-throwing, period, either by a professional or an amateur. It is not becoming.

[Trav]

  iacas said:

Tiger's come close to the line, but in my book, he's never crossed it with the club throwing.

Will you teach your children it's OK to behave the same way?

[iacas]

  Trav said:

Will you teach your children it's OK to behave the same way?

Simple answer: It's not really a legitimate question. Tiger Woods is not my sweet six-year-old daughter, nor vice versa.

Every parent watches - even laughs at, enjoys, or does - things they won't allow their children to do. The Robin Williams skit that's recently come up springs to mind: Robin swears a TON, we laugh, but my six-year-old would get in a pretty big load of trouble if she so much as said "damn." If Tiger ever does something that's across the line and she's watching, we'll explain to her why that was "bad." Simple answer #2: what's acceptable behavior changes by age, situation, and other factors.

[bogeyhitter25]

It doesn't really bother me at all. He's nearly a billionaire. Even if he breaks a club it's only a couple hundred bucks, which to him is money you'll find between his couch cushins.

I, on the other hand, don't really throw my clubs. If I hit an absolutely horrific shot I'll just drop my club at the end of my follow-through. I can't afford to break a club.

[jrode]

  pusher said:

Anyone see that guy get beaned by Goosen's errant drive? Fans have got to pay close attention or else risk getting nailed like that, just like sitting in the field level seats at a baseball game. You've got to protect yourself.

It's not just like baseball. At a baseball game you're a lot closer to the action and you can actually see a foul ball coming. It's tough in golf to be sitting along the fairway or around the green and see the ball in the air. It's someone's responsible to yell fore so people can at least somewhat protect themselves.

[Trav]

  iacas said:

Simple answer: It's not really a legitimate question. Tiger Woods is not my sweet six-year-old daughter, nor vice versa.

IMO those are deflecting answers. Childish behavior is less acceptable when displayed by an adult.

The Williams example is not on point. He is in an arena where we expect outrageous or off-center activity. IMO, we don't expect that from a golfer, and a golf professional who throws a club is guilty of extreme self-absorbed behavior (Tommy Bolt included). The extent to which some people are willing to excuse TW's occasional errant behavior never fails to amuse me. It's as though their hero cannot do any wrong. I am with Arnold on this. Having raised several kids, I would never tolerate their acting this way or thinking it was accpetable in such an arena. If they want to become standup comedians, I might feel differently. When your kids get older maybe you will understand.

[Chas]

I didn't see Tiger do it but from what I read here it was not a big deal, sort of dumping your club on the ground in disgust. I wouldn't do it but I don't play with the intensity and high expectations of a Tiger.

You want bad manners in sport? McEnroe (the brat) and Jimmy Connors come to mind. Both wonderful tennis players who I followed closely for many years but very prone to fits of anger on the court. In Connors' case he obviously used it to drag himself back into the match sometimes when he was down, which is very unsporting IMO - think about it from your opponent's point of view. Still, the guy was a bulldog and pulled off some amazing comebacks.

Tiger's behavior is nowhere near those guys, at least nothing I've seen. Frankly golfers, as a group of pros, behave pretty darned well considering what's often at stake. Still, no excuses for truly unsporting behavior I would agree.