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Adams hybrids and cleveland halos are the best ive used so far, I recently got a tour hybrid and i have a mitsubishi bassara shaft on it. I hit the adam about 150, the 19 *. OMG, high, soft, workable, amazing, I love it, give me your favorite hybrid and plz explain. Chau (I'm not french)


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Adams hybrids and cleveland halos are the best ive used so far, I recently got a tour hybrid and i have a mitsubishi bassara shaft on it. I hit the adam about 150, the 19 *. OMG, high, soft, workable, amazing, I love it, give me your favorite hybrid and plz explain. Chau

I've tried so many hybrids and so far my favorite has been the

Sonartec MD . It's got a clean and simple look, feels great, very controlable and is a rocket when struck well. Some of the ones I've tried and my opinions
  • Mizuno CLK & Bridgestone J33 (wood) - Tied with for 2nd after my Sonartec MD. Both have great loo, feel and perform well from a variety of lies.
  • Mizuno Fli Hi II - Great iron replacement for the traditionalist. I use this to replace my 4 iron every so often
  • TaylorMade Rescue Mid and Dual - Love the way they feel and perform but could never get used to looking at it from address and lining it up.
  • Cleveland HALO and Ping G5 - The rockered sole works great from a variety of lies, both have a solid feel to them. If you've hit a HiBORE think that.
  • Callaway Heavenwood - The 'tink' sound took some getting used to but ultimately the closed face on it bugged me. Very simple looks (which I like) and control was pretty good.
  • Callaway FT-Hybrid - I've tried this a couple times during a round and I think it's a great match for FT3 owners. Similar feel to the Mizuno CLK.
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The best one that i like is the Nike CPR scoop back,
really easy to hit, but not really workable..
but i don't try to "work" the ball so thats oké

In the Bag:

MP-001 10 degree exsar 60
MP-001 3 wood grafalloy prolite elite
T-40 5 wood nike stock regular 22&26 degree CPR hybrids 5-9 CPR II 48 degree forged wedge 52&56 degree CPR wedges Corza monza


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IMHO hybrids don't work well with my rather flat swing. I found them being easy to hit, true, but the dominant ball flight is a low "bullet", which has no chance of staying on a green with a long approach. After experimenting with few of them - I decided to stick with 4 and 3 irons, covering longer shots with a 5W...
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Do you have a picture of the new Titleist hybrid, the 585 you mention? I assume the 585 is a prototype for a soon to be released club. FWIW, I find the Cobra Baffler 23*, to be easy to get up from just about any lie. I generally hit it high and, as a result, it works well on long approaches to the green. If I put a good swing on it, it really performs.

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In the Bag:
Driver: :TaylorMade: RBZ 9.5 Reg Flex
3 Wood :TaylorMade: RBZ Reg Flex
Hybrid: Ping G25 Hybrids 17*, 20*, 23*

Irons:Ping G25 5-Gap Wedge, Sr Flex, Vokey 56.14 Spin Mill NS Pro Reg, Flex

Putter: Bobby Grace Center Shaft 32"


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Adams hybrids and cleveland halos are the best ive used so far, I recently got a tour hybrid and i have a mitsubishi bassara shaft on it. I hit the adam about 150, the 19 *. OMG, high, soft, workable, amazing, I love it, give me your favorite hybrid and plz explain. Chau

..... Hybrids, what can I say.? .. they're the wave of future ..

In the next 3 or 4 years, I think they'll be replacing 75% of the woods and "ill-played" irons on the market ... I've played (tested) probably most of the ones that are out there .. Ping G5's, Nike CPR's, Nickent, TaylorMade, Tour Edge, Cleveland, Cobra, Infiniti, SMT, Adams, Sonartec and probably a few others out there that won't come to my mind right now ... If I were to pick "my" 3 top picks .. I'd say Tour Edge, the Cleveland Halo, maybe the Ping (it's pretty much a knock-off of the Cleveland) then maybe the Nike (the only thing I didn't like was the color) .... the new Adams are nice and very similiar to the Tour Edge hybrids - and Tour Edge is one of the originals in that market. But remember, the only person that has to love them, is you.! -- so take your time and find the ones YOU like. This from a post from few days ago when someone asked me the same question: "So I checked out the Ping G5's, Nike CPR's, Nickent, TaylorMade, Tour Edge and a few others ... and when I say checked them out, that means I played them on courses I was used to, not at the "Golf Barn" ... and the "Tour Edge" gave me the look, the feel, distance and definatley the consistency I just never had before .... maybe it's easy for you, but it's not easy for me to hit a 4 iron 200+ yards .. now, I can do it 14 out of 15 shots and drop it right on the pad ... the first time I did it I was lookin' around my shoulder to see who hit that shot ..l.o.l.. I guess the real benefit (for me) is the loft and the distance in the rest of the line-up, like the 5 thru 9 .. and of course, that nutty 50* attack wedge .. so when your sitting waaay down in a 20ft sloped bunker and you can pop that bad boy out 100 yards and drop it on the green 99% of the time .. well, that stuff just never happened to me with the other clubs. This isn't any "endorsement" for Tour Edge .. but it's probably a endorsement for hybrids in general .... find the ones "you like" and go from there. The ST Adams woods are out, except for the #7 22* and the TA5's I sold online .... it leaves me more room now for that extra BLT .. Good luck and happy hunting ....
Whats in the bag.?

Driver: Tour Edge 10* Jmax 460 Carbon with the Fuji Vista Pro 50 shaft/and, the Burrows 10.5* MAC 421cc with the Grafalloy Pro Launch 55 shaft.
Woods: only one left after switching to hybrids - Adams ST #7 22*.
Hybrids: Tour Edge 20*, 24*, 30*, 36*, 41* and the 50* Attack Wedge...

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Adams hybrids and cleveland halos are the best ive used so far, I recently got a tour hybrid and i have a mitsubishi bassara shaft on it. I hit the adam about 150, the 19 *. OMG, high, soft, workable, amazing, I love it, give me your favorite hybrid and plz explain. Chau

I really like my Hogan 3H. No offset (unlike many other hybrids) so it's no hookmachine, good looking and low cost too.

By the way, ciao is spelled ciao and is Italian, not French.
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By the way, ciao is spelled ciao and is Italian, not French.

you beat me to it..lol..I have the Wilson Hb5 in 17 and 21 deg. I use the 17 deg. in place of my 3 iron and the 21 deg. for shots around 220..


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I love the Taylor Made Rescue Dual. I have both a 3 and 4 hybrid. I used to have the Taylor Made Rescue Mid (no movable weights) in a 3. The new Rescue Duals are FAR better (for me at least). I never really liked the old TM Resue Mid because I didn't think it was very forgiving, and I also seemed to hit the ball left. The new ones are great - much more forgiving and easier to hit straight. I thought there would be no difference between the old Rescue Mid and new Rescue Dual and that the weights were just a gimmick, but for me the new TM hybrids are greatly improved. You should give them a try.

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