Titleist 695cb vs 695mb

[crazy_horst]

i started playing golf in may and i use mb's and pure the ball 98% of the time.

Impossible. PGA Tour pros don't pure the ball 98% of the time.

Nice sticks, though

[RichF]

You would be insane to go the MB's having just started playing this year... this discussion comes up over and over again on these boards.

Fair enough, in my

5th-month of playing golf, I just got back from my local 18-hole course after breaking 90 for the 1st time (I got 87) using this setup: Nike Sasquatch Sumo: driver Nike Sasquatch: 3-Wood Mizuno MX-19: 3, 4, 9-Iron, PW Titleist 695MB: 5, 6, 7, 8-Iron Titleist Vokey SM56: SW Odyssey White-Hot: blade-putter Luck? Insanity? Egotistical? No - just a lot of practice and an easy swing. Forged blades are as easy or difficult as you want them to be.

[JaY_B]

To be honest most high handicap golfers don't know what a good strike is, so when they come in having had a "great ball striking day" I would come in fuming and wanting to give up golf.
There is a massive different between a 'proper strike' and what a high handicapper thinks is a good strike, there for high handicappers remain ignorant believing they are ready and good enough for blades while us golfers who can strike a ball know fully well they are not at a good enough level to use blades effectively, i find it highly amusing that people off 20 genuinely believe they can hit blades, but ignorance is bliss lol

[RichF]

To be honest most high handicap golfers don't know what a good strike is, so when they come in having had a "great ball striking day" I would come in fuming and wanting to give up golf.

You're right - 'improper ball striking' using forged blades really is damaging my game.

[FIJIGolf23]

there for high handicappers remain ignorant believing they are ready and good enough for blades

Keep tootin' your horn, buddy. Rich, play whatever sticks you feel comfortable swinging. If you don't hit the blades well right now, I guarantee you will learn very quickly how to hit them solid because you will have the truest feedback with them.

[RichF]

Keep tootin' your horn, buddy.

Yeah, I know what you mean....but some people on here have that 'holier'-than-thou' attitude and the thought of someone picking up a blade and swinging it/hitting correctly with it in short time just befuddles them.

Kind of amusing, really. Anyway, I can't stop going on about this - I need to go and test out the Titleist 695MB 2-Iron I've just purchased.

[JaY_B]

Keep tootin' your horn, buddy.

Yes i can strike the ball, and why take shame in saying it but i would hardly call that "tootin' my horn" would you like to explain how its "tootin' my horn"??

And in saying that 20 handicappers cant strike a ball well enough to hit blades, common sense? yes, controversial? no so where is the issue in what i said? Some of the people on this forum do make me laugh, every 20 handicapper can hit his blades perfectly and hit his nice long 300 yard drive and some people who i would of thought no better argues on the side of the high handicapper, it baffles me, anyway I'm going to go and toot my horn cheers buddy!

[FIJIGolf23]

Yes i can strike the ball, and why take shame in saying it but i would hardly call that "tootin' my horn" would you like to explain how its "tootin' my horn"??

Sure. You come in this thread, start calling this guy "ignorant" because you feel that just because his handicap is 20+ and that yours is 5.x, that you can tell him that he isn't in fact hitting the ball solid? And then you use the phrase, "believing they are ready and good enough for blades while us golfers who can strike a ball," to practically call this guy an idiot because god forbid a 20+ handicap be able to differentiate a solid shot from a mishit.

And in saying that 20 handicappers cant strike a ball well enough to hit blades, common sense? yes, controversial? no so where is the issue in what i said?

Where is the issue?? Why can't a 20+ handicapper hit blades?

Here is a little story, a true story: One of my fraternity brothers starts playing golf this summer. He goes to the driving range a few times, plays a few rounds of golf, etc. He doesn't practice much. I go back to school one weekend and play a round of golf with him. He is borrowing another brothers Macgregor blades. To make a long story short, he goes on to hit at least 75% of his iron shots pure with a nice high cut. His problem is a combination of driving, chipping, and putting. So tell me again why a 20+ handicapper can't hit a muscleback, because I know he isn't anywhere close to a 20 handicap.

Some of the people on this forum do make me laugh, every 20 handicapper can hit his blades perfectly and hit his nice long 300 yard drive and some people who i would of thought no better argues on the side of the high handicapper, it baffles me, anyway I'm going to go and toot my horn cheers buddy!

I do know better. I know better than to criticize someone because of what golf equipment they want to use. Everyone is different and approaches the game differently. I don't understand why people get this god complex with golf and think they are the only ones that can, in this case, hit a muscleback iron. It's ridiculous.

[Terrier]

Zach Johnson plays the 695CBs. He won the Masters.

Whatever rings in your loins when you hit it in the sweet spot, boys...whatever works.

Lowest score works, eh?

We're talking about the 695MBs vs. the 695CBs, right?

:)

[andre112]

Please don't judge ppl's ball striking ability by their handicaps.
iron is merely part of the game that contributes toward the handicap.

[RichF]

Sure. You come in this thread, start calling this guy "ignorant" because you feel that just because his handicap is 20+ and that yours is 5.x, that you can tell him that he isn't in fact hitting the ball solid? And then you use the phrase, "believing they are ready and good enough for blades while us golfers who can strike a ball," to practically call this guy an idiot because god forbid a 20+ handicap be able to differentiate a solid shot from a mishit.

FIJI, leave it....it's not the first thread that I've had to go to toe-to-toe with certain posters who claim exactly the opposite of what you've just said.

Like I said before, it's gotta hurt when a guy who's been practising for years meets a guy who just picked up a blade golf club and he strikes it consistently well. It's almost like, "How dare you?!?"

[JaY_B]

Like I said before, it's gotta hurt when a guy who's been practising for years meets a guy who just picked up a blade golf club and he strikes it consistently well.

For the record I have been playing golf for 3 years, and held a handicap for 2 years, and I am 17 so i haven't been playing for years and also for the record it's not sour grapes if you can hit blades fair play, But as i think Fiji said, his mate hits it pure 75% of the time and then assumes it justifies blades, just my opinion but the purpose of blades is to make it easier to control the ball, and they way the ball spins etc, if your telling me that a 20+ handicap knows how to do this i suppose who am I too argue.

At the end of the day it's up to you as a golfer to play what you want to play, maybe i shouldn't of got so heated but the obsession with blades baffles me as its not going to be the best for your game, IMO Also apologies to anyone i have offended/annoyed in recent threads.

[FIJIGolf23]

[QUOTE=JaY_B;93840]But as i think Fiji said, his mate hits it pure 75% of the time and then assumes it justifies blades, [QUOTE]

I didn't assume it justifies blades, nor does he assume that. I was just simply stating that even someone that has just taken up the game and barely practices can in fact hit solid shots with a muscleback. I find it hard to believe that someone that practices more wouldn't be able to increase his percentage of solid shots.

[JaY_B]

Every golfer in the world can hit solid shots with any type of club, the point I tried to make in my previous post was that the design of blades allows you to control and influence the golf ball, and how many people are honestly at that level? most single figure handicap golfers are not at that level, and i very much doubt that many, if not any novice golfers (in reference to your mate) has the amount of control and experience required to use blades effectively
To quote from Tiger Wood's book How i play golf in relation to Blades "I love them - they provide wonderful feedback and feel. But I've practised many hours to learn to play these kinds of clubs. Most amateurs, however, would be better served by some kind of sole-heavy, cavity back design, which delivers good results on off-center hits and helps them get the ball in the air"

What else do you need to hear to appreciate my point of view?

[FIJIGolf23]

Every golfer in the world can hit solid shots with any type of club, the point I tried to make in my previous post was that the design of blades allows you to control and influence the golf ball, and how many people are honestly at that level? most single figure handicap golfers are not at that level, and i very much doubt that many, if not any novice golfers (in reference to your mate) has the amount of control and experience required to use blades effectively

I never said that I did not appreciate your point of view. You have a right to post your opinion and I have the right to open discussion on that opinion given the nature of this website. However, I don't really appreicate the way you came off towards this guy trying to make him feel like an idiot because of the equipment he wants to use.

Also, don't take anything I say personally. It is not meant that way in any means.

[JaY_B]

Point taken, and have already apologised.

Lesson learnt though, no more posting at midnight i get moody lol

[RichF]

For the record I have been playing golf for 3 years, and held a handicap for 2 years, and I am 17 so i haven't been playing for years and also for the record it's not sour grapes if you can hit blades fair play, But as i think Fiji said, his mate hits it pure 75% of the time and then assumes it justifies blades, just my opinion but the purpose of blades is to make it easier to control the ball, and they way the ball spins etc, if your telling me that a 20+ handicap knows how to do this i suppose who am I too argue.

Okay, I see your point-of-view but I'm not some 'gear-head' who's just discovered golf and jumped in at the deep-end and gone out bought a full, brand new set of blades.

I'm not that stupid and I'm not that good. However, I have included the MB irons (5, 6, 8, PW) into my bag and I can hit them straight and I can get a good trajectory flight on them, e.g. I can land on the green off a 165yd, Par3 using the 695MB 7-Iron every time. However, what I can't do is consistently work the ball to the left/right of a hazard or a tree with these yet. So, if your 'you can't hit blades correctly' assumption is based on purely working the ball, then yes, you're right: I can't. But the argument continues: if I can hit those shots with a Mizuno MX-19, oversized, cavity-back...theh why change and make the game harder for myself? I can't really answer that apart from a) they look better, b) they feel a lot better on contact and c) they're improving the way I swing an iron. The more I play (and I play a lot : 3x a week at the driving range and 3x on the 18-hole every week , weather no issue), the better I get - and the proof is in my last round when I broke 90 for the 1st time. By the way, just for the record....I can't drive 300yds either. I can carry the ball maybe 265yds tops with a driver.

[longfornothing]

I'd like to know how this little expirement worked out. I'd bet the OP is probably around the same handicap less than a year later, maybe worse, after buying those blades.

I know, b/c I just got finished making the same mistake. Blades are earned. You just don't pick em' up and go out and have fun. You have to suffer for a long time before you get to actually figure out how to control the ball. By that time, you are ready for something more forgiving. I got the T-Shirt.

That other guy wasn't being condescending, he was just speaking the truth, and sometimes the truth just doesn't want to be heard.

Blades are indeed for "God Like" figures. Everyone eventually figures that out one way or another.