Jump to content
Check out the Spin Axis Podcast! ×
IGNORED

possibly a soon to be age old question


Note: This thread is 7217 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Recommended Posts

Posted
so with all the talk of tiger dominating, obviously he just doesnt have the kind of competition nicklaus, or arnie, or any of the other greats had.

its been discussed time and time again, but do you think its because tiger is just too good? or because nobody is rising to the challenge?

if i knew how to make a poll, i would have. im sure one of the admins will do it for me if they see fit.

905R 9.5* Fujikura Speeder
200 steel 3 wood
200 steel 5 wood
690.CB 3-PW
56* 14 Pro Platinum Newport 2 Pro V1 B330-S


  • Moderator
Posted
Actually, I honestly think that there is stronger competition today. That is, there's a larger portion of players on any given week in the PGA who have a chance of winning. I think in the Nicklaus - Palmer - Player - Trevino days, there was a smaller group that could play with those guys. I think the Nationwide and European Tours are largely responsible for the parity that does exist on the PGA Tour. Just to get to the PGA, you pretty much have to be ready to win. But there is still an elite group that Tiger leads.

I think players have risen to the challenge, but have not been able to sustain it. Tiger plays at the highest level virtually every week he's in the field (as Nicklaus did -- look at all those 2nds). Vijay's had great seasons, Mickelson's had great months ... Tiger's had a great decade.

Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend.
Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
--Groucho Marx

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

  • Administrator
Posted
so with all the talk of tiger dominating, obviously he just doesnt have the kind of competition nicklaus, or arnie, or any of the other greats had.

I disagree with the premise - that Tiger doesn't have the competition Jack had. Arnie's career was 7 years long, basically. Player and Watson were really the stiffest competition he had. Jack's career overlapped a lot of others, but we'll see the same thing from Tiger's career when he's done.

Tiger, meanwhile, has Phil, Vijay, Ernie, Duval (for a short while)... Retief Goosen, etc. I've also said this before... Jack only ever had to really worry about five or ten players winning tournaments any given week. Tiger has to worry about a FAR deeper field, week in and week out, and competition at the top just as stiff as Nicklaus faced in his day. So, again, I disagree with the premise. Besides, you're the same prutkows who said it should be "expected" that today's athletes should be breaking records sooner - that certainly seems to agree with me that Tiger's competition is better than those that Jack faced.

Erik J. Barzeski —  I knock a ball. It goes in a gopher hole. 🏌🏼‍♂️
Director of Instruction Golf Evolution • Owner, The Sand Trap .com • AuthorLowest Score Wins
Golf Digest "Best Young Teachers in America" 2016-17 & "Best in State" 2017-20 • WNY Section PGA Teacher of the Year 2019 :edel: :true_linkswear:

Check Out: New Topics | TST Blog | Golf Terms | Instructional Content | Analyzr | LSW | Instructional Droplets

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Note: This thread is 7217 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Want to join this community?

    We'd love to have you!

    Sign Up
  • TST Partners

    Carl's Place
    PlayBetter
    Golfer's Journal
    ShotScope
    The Stack System
    FitForGolf
    FlightScope Mevo

    Coupon Codes (save 10-20%): "IACAS" for Mevo/Stack/FitForGolf, "IACASPLUS" for Mevo+/Pro Package, and "THESANDTRAP" for ShotScope. 15% off TourStriker (no code).
  • Posts

    • Hello Golfing Buddies, It has been awhile since I posted but I am the Retired Old Man that asked for advice because I suffered two "T.I.A.'s about switching from playing right handed to playing left handed.  I purchased a Callaway Edge Left handed golf clubs. I changed the grips to oversize grips.  Well, two weeks ago and still at 79 years old, I shot a 44 and 47 on a small course in my hometown.  I am currently changing my shafts from regular flex to Senior flex.  So, you can see' it can be done! So, you other old timers; get with the program! Blessings to all of you. Retired Old Man (Terry Warner)  
    • Haiduk - Archdevil        
    • Probably since the golfer has to swing the club back and up. The hands have to move back and up. You can feel them go back and up just by turning the shoulders and bending the right arm, because it brings your hands towards your right shoulder.  The difference is if you maintain width or not. Less width means a shorter feeling swing path so the more you need to lift the arms. Being as someone who gets the right arm bend at 110+ degrees, it's 100% a timing issue. I am use to like a 1.5+ second backswing. It probably should be like 1 second at most. Half a second or more will feel like an eternity. I have had swings where I keep my right arm straighter and I am still trying to time the downswing based on the old tempo.  Ideally, for me, it is probably going to be a much quicker and shorter (in duration) backswing, while keeping the right elbow straighter. Which also means more hinging to get swing length without over swinging. 
    • Wordle 1,789 5/6 ⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜ ⬜⬜🟨⬜⬜ ⬜🟩⬜🟩🟩 ⬜🟩🟨🟩🟩 🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
    • I'm currently recuperating from surgery, so no golf, but have been thinking about this quite a bit. This and the don't overbend the right arm thing. It's hard for me to even pose the position, so I'm not 100% sure, but I feel like it's impossible to have the right humerus along the shirt seam and not overbend your right arm, unless your hands are down near your hips. If the left arm is up at or above the shoulder plane and your right arm is bent less than 90 degrees, then your right humerus has to raise or your hands will get pulled apart. Your left hand can't reach your right hand unless either the right upper arm is up or the right arm is overbent. Is that right? If it is, then focusing on not overbending the right arm would force you to raise the humerus. And actually thinking further on it, if you do overbend your right arm, then you're basically forcing your upper arm down or forcing your left arm to bend. Since (for me at least) bending the left arm too much is not something I think I need to worry about, it means that the bend in the trail arm is really the driving force behind what happens to the right humerus. 
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Welcome to TST! Signing up is free, and you'll see fewer ads and can talk with fellow golf enthusiasts! By using TST, you agree to our Terms of Use, our Privacy Policy, and our Guidelines.