Swing thoughts please!? 1st S&T video

[iacas]

Here's something you can do for this in your living room that really help.

That's okay, but it's more about the clubface and his hands rolling over rather than where his hands and the clubface are going. If you do what kfowler suggests, just make sure the line goes up far enough.

Note the clubface angle (red line) in this picture, too. The green line is the line kfowler wants (and it's fine):

[bpolunin]

That's okay, but it's more about the clubface and his hands rolling over rather than where his hands and the clubface are going. If you do what kfowler suggests, just make sure the line goes up far enough.

Ahhh, I see now Eric. Thanks for the pics. I think my arm position is fine. It's my hand position. From the practice session I had today and looking at the pics you just showed I see that I roll my wrist over and that takes the club head way on to inside and face way open. If I "think" to keep the right wrist over my left, it will put it in the correct position. It may also help to bring the shoulder down more.

Another thing that I noticed, and not sure if it's the problem or not, but I notice about 3/4 way into the back swing, my left knee moves inward like it's collapsing inside. Watching S&T DVD, I don't remember Mike's knee coming in. What do you think? As for deep hands, I think I got that down since the first video. I will try to get another video soon. Thanks for the suggestion kfowler. I think it's great, accept PGA Superstore is right around the corner from me and I go there almost every day to practice with the video setup they have.

[iacas]

Another thing that I noticed, and not sure if it's the problem or not, but I notice about 3/4 way into the back swing, my left knee moves inward like it's collapsing inside. Watching S&T; DVD, I don't remember Mike's knee coming in. What do you think?

I think I'd worry about that later. You could probably be a little more solid on the left leg but, again, later...

As for deep hands, I think I got that down since the first video. I will try to get another video soon.

I'd disagree. Look at the butt end of the club. It's actually further away from you.

[kfowler]

The example Eric shows is exactly what talking about. Only good up to about parallel but effective.

[iacas]

The example Eric shows is exactly what talking about. Only good up to about parallel but effective.

Yeah, past parallel, your hands will move up to the elbow plane - the line drawn from the ball to your elbows at setup. That's due to the right arm folding.

[bpolunin]

Yeah, past parallel, your hands will move up to the elbow plane - the line drawn from the ball to your elbows at setup. That's due to the right arm folding.

I see now. OK. Just like in the picture below...

[Andrew Rice]

I would also try to strengthen your left hand grip. It looked a little weak to me and I believe it is part of the reason why your arms seemed to want to seperate from your body in the start of the swing. To get a feel for what Eric means about when he says deep, deep, deep try this drill:
Set up without a club in your hands and your back foot about 6-8 inches from a wall. Now make a slow backswing with the arms until you find a way to get to the top without scraping your knuckles along the wall. The only way to get to the top is to have your arms working in quite aggresively towards the body.
Here is a link to the drill that I posted on Youtube:
Your swing looks solid - keep on working.

[iacas]

Here is a link to the drill that I posted on Youtube:

That's a good drill. Dave's recommended the same thing to a few people. Glad to see you're posting some videos, Andrew. Cool beans.