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I hear ya man! The 60 deg can be a dangerous club if it isn't hit square. I use the 56 all around the greens..which reminds me, I need to buy a new one before the beginning of the season because my grooves are worn out!!

Which SW do you use?

I am still searching for the perfect versatile SW. I am still undecide and waiting for better weather for an all around assessment. I have a bunch of wedges I will unload in the spring but what is fitting my purpose so far is Callaway X Forged Vintage 56* w/ MD grooves, Trinity 56* carbon steel wedge and Ping 56-10 Tour-W. The X-Forged really does spin the ball. It shears a little too, that should subside with a little wear. I have been urged to try a Snake Eyes 685BX but I think it is very close to the X-Forged that I alreay have. I will lookey.

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i have 4 wedges pw 46 gw 52 sw 56 hlw 64

it looks weird but i fill all my gaps with a partial swing were i learned to control trajectory and spin on every shot, but i also play everyday in the summer and have time to learn that with out neglecting my long game or putting.

i don't recommend this set up to anyone that doesn't practice often or can't hit a partial wedge

PW 143 GW 128 SW 110 HLW 80 all in yards

i hardly use the 64* from anything over 50 yards but i full swing will go 80 and do tons of damage to a nice tour i :(

driver. taylormade tour burner tp ust avixcore tour green 75 x
3 wood 909 f3 13* voodo xnv8
3 hybrid adams idea pro vs proto 95x
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Which SW do you use?

I use the Cleveland CG15. It's a great wedge and if you use a softer ball, you can attack flags with the confidence that the ball will check up hard. The only problem with these wedges are 1. if you are a strong player, you may overspin the ball (depending on what ball you use of course) and 2. the zip groves tear apart the ball like crazy!

Deryck Griffith

Titleist 910 D3: 9.5deg GD Tour AD DI7x | Nike Dymo 3W: 15deg, UST S-flex | Mizuno MP CLK Hybrid: 20deg, Project X Tour Issue 6.5, HC1 Shaft | Mizuno MP-57 4-PW, DG X100 Shaft, 1deg upright | Cleveland CG15 Wedges: 52, 56, 60deg | Scotty Cameron California Del Mar | TaylorMade Penta, TP Black LDP, Nike 20XI-X


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