Fan, Fold, Bump, Turn my new drill

[grantc79]

Well basically I've had an issue with not sliding my hips enough, being laid off (especially at the top), and generally just all out of wack.

So I have devised a little drill that I call fan, fold, bump, and turn. I wanted to know what you all think.

Step 1: Fan the right forearm backward without manipulating the wrists.

Step 2: Fold the right forearm up over the elbow. Once again don't manipulate the wrists.

Step 3: Bump the hips left. This drops the club down a touch, gets the right shoulder going down plane, gets the spine tilt that I want, and gets the weight going on to my left side and all sorts of other good things.

Step 4: Power the club to the ball using only my hip turn.

Just wanted to now what you all think.

[colin007]

you have a lot of separation between your arms and the ribcage. fixing that will help get your hands more to the inside on the way back.

[DavidFehertysBike]

you have a lot of separation between your arms and the ribcage. fixing that will help get your hands more to the inside on the way back.

Thats ok. Having your arms (particulary your trail arm) too close to your body might actually make you narrow the arc and push them out again on the down swing. Then you'll come over the top. You want to have some extention there.

But yeah, i fan my forearm on the backswing during practice, too. I have a tendacy to shut the face down going back and doing that gives me the sensation of rotation.

[grantc79]

you have a lot of separation between your arms and the ribcage. fixing that will help get your hands more to the inside on the way back.

After looking at it a bit and experimenting I tend to agree that I have a bit too much extensor action going on in the back swing. That right arm gets really high and wide.

I believe I was actually raising and folding my right forearm up at the same time which is what was leading to so much seperation. I made another video where I tried to go for the feeling of the elbow almost stay static while the right forearm folds up. While I realize that right elbow is not staying put at all that is the feeling I went for. That gave me a much more connected motion.

[delav]

Nice and compact. You get the club into a good position at the top using this drill.

[grantc79]

Nice and compact. You get the club into a good position at the top using this drill.

I'm refining it more and more.

Will post another video shortly. Basically the feeling in the right forearm is like you are a black jack dealer for example. You deal cards left to right all the way to the very edge of the table and once you reach the edge you deal a card to someone sitting over your right shoulder. Pretty simple. My biggest issue is everytime I look backwards at the screen on my PC I wind up taking the club further back and getting a bit too extended. I don't seem to do it when I don't look but I kinda have to look to make sure I'm hitting the spot I wanna hit.

[iacas]

I will say this: you get a lot closer to the plane when you actually look down at the ball and are getting ready to hit it. Before that you're well above it.

[grantc79]

I will say this: you get a lot closer to the plane when you actually look down at the ball and are getting ready to hit it. Before that you're well above it.

Yup.

This was the last bit of my post before yours: "My biggest issue is everytime I look backwards at the screen on my PC I wind up taking the club further back and getting a bit too extended. I don't seem to do it when I don't look but I kinda have to look to make sure I'm hitting the spot I wanna hit." That said I'm not a one planer I shift up to turned shoulder plane and then back down so I might seem above plane to a one planer. As long as my club is dropping and the shaft and my right forearm make a straight line at impact I'm pretty happy.

[iacas]

That said I'm not a one planer I shift up to turned shoulder plane and then back down so I might seem above plane to a one planer.

Thing is, you're closer to a one-plane swing (elbow plane) than the TSP in your real move.

[david_wedzik]

Basically the feeling in the right forearm is like you are a black jack dealer for example.

Good golf and good instruction stems, many times, from really good sensations and feelings...the right forearm feeling and the description of the blackjack dealer provides one of those very good feelings - nice job!. It is important that feelings such as these are used only by players who need them (point is no feeling is for everyone as they are generally used to create opposites during practice) so anyone reading should be aware of that. Anyway...thanks for providing a certain description and a way to "feel" it.

Dave

[grantc79]

Good golf and good instruction stems, many times, from really good sensations and feelings...the right forearm feeling and the description of the blackjack dealer provides one of those very good feelings - nice job!. It is important that feelings such as these are used only by players who need them (point is no feeling is for everyone as they are generally used to create opposites during practice) so anyone reading should be aware of that. Anyway...thanks for providing a certain description and a way to "feel" it.

Thanks for the compliment and I admire your work :)

[grantc79]

Thing is, you're closer to a one-plane swing (elbow plane) than the TSP in your real move.

You know you just gave me a great idea and solved another problem for me.

I have been having problems with my transition. Basically I'm having a hard time moving from the hip bump into the hip turn and I could not figure out why I couldn't connect the two. The reason was because I was getting way too much hip turn in my back swing. I was basically getting to a point where my hips were so open it is practically impossible to get them bumped and back around. I've started to resist the hip turn a little bit which has shortened my swing down quite a bit and I'm not so damn high in the air which means a bit more on plane a bit easier to get onto my left side.