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Why do most pro's tell people to have a straight spine?
Why don't they stick to the old way of swinging?

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Why do most pro's tell people to have a straight spine?

Why do most pros believe the wrong ball flight laws?

Why do most pros think that you maintain your spine angle? Why do most pros think that you release the club to hit a draw? Why do most pros say that to hit a draw you should stay behind the ball? C'mon, you're not new here. You've seen my posts. Half of them dispel myths that have, for some infuriating reason or another, become common and widespread despite the fact that they're flat out wrong. Again, modern instruction has gotten away from some of the things that actually happen in the golf swing.

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Why do most pros believe the wrong ball flight laws?

Sorry about going off-topic.

But don't all pro's have to do a course? Doesn't that course give them a model to teach by?

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But don't all pro's have to do a course?

Yes and no. All PGA members have to undergo testing, but most of that deals with stuff like "golf cart fleet management" and very little to do with the golf swing. And some parts of that are provably wrong - like the ball flight laws.

But to be a pro all you have to do is say "I'm a pro" too, so those people have NO training at all.

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I believe your shoulders should be back. However there should be no piching sensation. If you stand straight and relaxed your arms will hang at your side. If you bend at the waist and begin to assume your golf posture and relax your shoulders, your shoulders will "round". Now if you keep your shoulders relaxed and round and stand back up you will notice that your arms and hands are no longer at your side but in front of your body. This causes seperation of the arms from the body on the takeaway. This is the exact opposite of what Ben Hogan taught in his book. My theroy is when you stand straight and relaxed and begin to take your golf posture, keep your arms at your side then grip the club. You will take the club back with your shoulders, and not your amrs. Also your shoulders will stay on a much better plane and make it easier to turn.  Just my opinion

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Originally Posted by bt10

I believe your shoulders should be back. However there should be no piching sensation. If you stand straight and relaxed your arms will hang at your side. If you bend at the waist and begin to assume your golf posture and relax your shoulders, your shoulders will "round". Now if you keep your shoulders relaxed and round and stand back up you will notice that your arms and hands are no longer at your side but in front of your body. This causes seperation of the arms from the body on the takeaway. This is the exact opposite of what Ben Hogan taught in his book. My theroy is when you stand straight and relaxed and begin to take your golf posture, keep your arms at your side then grip the club. You will take the club back with your shoulders, and not your amrs. Also your shoulders will stay on a much better plane and make it easier to turn.  Just my opinion

Probably better to move this discussion over here: http://thesandtrap.com/t/56069/good-golf-posture/ .

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