World Cup Final

[mcfc_nick]

  Kingfisher said:

Nick, bitter blue much?

Firstly, i may live in Walkden now, but i was born in Droylsden which is all of about 2 miles away from Eastlands.

Secondly, you may now be in the Greater Manchester area (county) but not actually in Manchester (city), hence you not actually being from Manchester but from Trafford but whatever. Thirdly, you being scum is not down to envy, its down to the fact that you're our fiercest rivals and that i just physically hate them, we're scum to a lot of your fans, Everton to Liverpool and vice versa, Arsenal to Tottenham and vice versa, are they all down to jealousy? no its because we're local rivals. Finally, if we're not going to do anything with us 'splashing the cash' then why is everybody in football talking about us? if you weren't scared of us overtaking you then there wouldn't be all of the media hype surrounding us and you lot having more digs at us than normal. we used to be little city and not worth a mention now you are continually having things to say about us. the fact that we are now the richest club in the world with unlimited amounts of cash and you being in millions, no wait, billions of pounds in debt just means that it won't be long until we are challenging for honours (this year) and being the biggest club in the city if not the world (eventually in many years time). Fergie sign him up, Fergie Fergie sign him up!

[Kingfisher]

  mcfc_nick said:

Firstly, i may live in Walkden now, but i was born in Droylsden which is all of about 2 miles away from Eastlands.

Well, to address your geographical concerns, I was born in Hope Hospital, which is a couple of miles or less from Old Trafford, so I guess that justifies my choice of team on the grounds of proximity? Unless you're a nipper, City were at Maine Rd, not Eastlands when you were born and by the way, Droylsden is in Tameside not the City of Manchester.

I'm not sure what to say about your obsession with scum but it sounds like a throwback to the days of football hooliganism. Sure there are rivalries, but some of my friends are supporters of the other team and I don't view them as scum. Each to their own I guess. Money. Granted, City now have a very wealthy sugar daddy and this has attracted a lot of media interest, so of course people are talking. It's just a bit of hype. Money alone does not buy success - case in point City spent ~120million quid last year and what do they have to show for it? Many other teams have tried and failed to buy their way to success, because they didn't have the right ingredients in place. The fact that City have suddenly acquired some deep pockets simply means is that you end up paying over the odds for average players (read Lescott, Adebayor, Robhinho) who deliver nothing. Just because there is money there, it doesn't mean that big names will come running, in fact City have been linked with a whole host of names who have either moved somewhere else (where there's a better chance of success) or stayed put. You need to have a solid foundation in place, a good manager and also an owner who trusts the manager to make the right decisions. Does City have any of these 3 things right now? The answer is no - if City win nowt this coming season (highly probable), they'll be looking for yet another new manager! As I said in my earlier post, no doubt City will be in the mix this year, but I really don't see them challenging at the top. At least there'll be a couple of entertaining derby games for y'all again

[brgolf]

In the end Nick I'm not going to get into an argument with a city fan as it would be pointless but I was amused that you thought that on the basis of pure hatred people would be enticed into supporting Manchester City! What a fantastic advertisement.

Why is it that city fans must hate, why is that the city way?

[mcfc_nick]

  Kingfisher said:

Well, to address your geographical concerns, I was born in Hope Hospital, which is a couple of miles or less from Old Trafford, so I guess that justifies my choice of team on the grounds of proximity? Unless you're a nipper, City were at Maine Rd, not Eastlands when you were born and by the way, Droylsden is in Tameside not the City of Manchester.

naaa matey, dont get me wrong, i only hate the football club not the fans (most anyway), a lot of my best friends are utd fans and i dont call them scum, this is going wayy over the top now, its a term widely used by everybody about there most hated rivals, like i said most utd fans call us scum (once again, not the people just the club)

about the location, again im not having a pop at you or the fans, i just think that its funny how a team who are not from the city of Manchester can call themselves 'Manchester' Utd. You can support whoever you want obviously and i have no problem about that (hence the whole start of this, me asking an American to support us, pretty sure he doesn't come from Manchester :) ), i too was born in Hope and am 18, and lived around just over 3 miles from Maine Road, sure you lot get criticised for having fans from London, China, etc. everywhere except from Manchester, but that doesn't really bother me (except for the 'fans' who continuosly change their teams, how can you support one team this year then another the next? thats the down side to our future success, i already know a number of people who were 'fans' of you lot and now for some reason support us which annoys me, i have nothing whatsoever against 'real' utd supporters). now the money thing, in the first year we bought Robbie, SWP, Kompany, Bridge, Bellers and Given, with the last three coming in in January and we finished 10th, in that summer we brought in Tevez (waheyyy), Ade, De Jong, Barry, Lescott, Toure, Adam Johnson and Vieira, with the last two coming in in January and finished 5th (a whisker away from 4th) losing 7 games (the same as you btw) and the only reason we wasn't challenging towards the top of the table is down to an unexplainable run of 7 draws against the likes of Fulham & Burnley at home, so its pretty safe that we are on a steady progression upwards. also about the players who delivered nothing, Robinho in his first season with us he scored 14 goals (4th top scorer in the league) with a number of assists which i wouldn't call that a flop (speaking of flops how's Berbatov?), and ok last year wasn't very good for him but he was injured for practically most of the time he was with us and played 10 games (most were a few minutes as sub) while he was still nursing a stress fracture of his ankle in a world cup year. Ade scored 14 goals for us last year in 26 games, thats more than 1 every other game, thats not too shabby in my opinion. and Lescott only played 7 games for us last year through injury so how anybody can make a decision on how he is fairing is beyond me. i think you're right about the manager aspect, we need to keep one in rather than sacking them every other week but Mancini is an excellent manager, as he has proved elsewhere, and as long as he does respectably this year he'll be here for a while. Anyways, its going to be a very, very entertaining season this year with a number of teams challenging rather than it just being between you and Chelsea, i actually cant wait!

[Kingfisher]

  mcfc_nick said:

Anyways, its going to be a very, very entertaining season this year with a number of teams challenging rather than it just being between you and Chelsea, i actually cant wait!

This is one point I agree with you on 100%, it's definitely going to be tougher than ever!

I can't wait for the season to get started after the disappointment of the world cup!