Fixing a fade

[Brant17]

Guys,

I am a pretty solid player. I have been back and forth from a 4 to 8 handicap over the last year. Lately I have a struggled with a constant fade. I have never had this happen to me. It doesnt matter whether Im hitting a wedge or a driver it is going to fade. It is not really a bad thing but I have lost a lot of distance and I have completely lost the ability to draw the ball.

Does anyone have any suggestions for me or things I may can try? I am not coming over the top. That is for sure not the problem. I am really confused on by all this.

Thanks

[motteler621]

Guys,

well if you are fading the ball, you are coming over the top. Have you seen a slow motion video of your swing? I use to fade/slice the ball and it always felt and looking from vantage point that I wasnt coming over the top but sure enough I was. Once I fixed that, the fade spin is completely gone, now Im just trying to fix my straight push, lol

[TaylorMadeTaylor]

Is it a push-fade, a straight fade, or a pull-fade?

Either way, it wouldn't hurt to read up on ball flight laws.

[motteler621]

btw I use to hit alot of push fades and pull fades, dont matter.. any fade spin you are getting is from you cutting across the ball.... period

[Jaywun]

Although your index is lower than 90% of us, I admire your seeking help from any and all. Not that it will help you, but when I start bleeding high right off the tee, my easiest fix thru experience is nothing more than concentrating on finishing my backswing. Not so much with amount of turn, but the timing sequence before starting downswing.

[JackLee]

A closed stance makes it easier to swing a little inside-out. You might want to experiment with that.

[kpaulhus]

When I start over fading, I start to slow my swing down. I still hit the ball with my usual force, but my first 8 inches of my swing is very slow. I think this helps me focus on coming back straight through the ball. Let us know how you end up fixing it.

[shortstop20]

btw I use to hit alot of push fades and pull fades, dont matter.. any fade spin you are getting is from you cutting across the ball.... period

So it's impossible to hit a fade with an inside-out swing path?

According to your logic, Hogan and Trevino both must have "cut across" the ball. It's pretty clear they were right on the swing plane or inside-out. How do you explain the Power Fade?

[motteler621]

So it's impossible to hit a fade with an inside-out swing path?

Im gonna call on Iacas to answer this one. I personaly am not an expert on ball flight laws to say what they did. I know what I was doing though

[shortstop20]

Im gonna call on Iacas to answer this one. I personaly am not an expert on ball flight laws to say what they did. I know what I was doing though

I've heard a couple people on here make the claim that all fades are from "cutting across" the ball, but it's just not true.

Clubface 4 degrees open, swingpath 2 degrees inside-out, wala.........push fade. Can a push fade be hit with an over the top swing? Absolutely, it's just that the clubface has to be open, compared not only to the swing path, but also the target line.

[motteler621]

I've heard a couple people on here make the claim that all fades are from "cutting across" the ball, but it's just not true.

yea i was going to say that, but I will wanted to hear Iacas's response.

[iacas]

I've heard a couple people on here make the claim that all fades are from "cutting across" the ball, but it's just not true.

Well, it is true and it isn't true.

It's true if by "cutting across the ball" you mean relative to the clubface (in which case I'd argue that a draw is "cutting across the ball" too, but it's not generally meant to mean from inside to outside). It's false if you understand "cutting across the ball" to mean a swing that's over the top and is outside-in relative to the target line. motteler, the second version of "cutting across the ball" is by far more common, which is why you got push back on what you said. Pull fades are always "bad" because you are coming over the top, while a push-fade has a chance of being a better swing because they can be hit coming from the inside (or the outside - but it's not 100% guaranteed to be the outside like a pull-fade).

[shortstop20]

Well, it is true and it isn't true.

Well said.

[MJP]

Isn't a "power fade" really just a push fade with an in to out path? The in to out is where the "power" comes from

[shortstop20]

Isn't a "power fade" really just a push fade with an in to out path?

Correct..........

[wrx_junki]

Try to keep your head behind the ball longer is one suggestion. Stronger grip is another. Try to hit some wicked hooks at the range and then work your way back from there.

[CalBoomer]

Power fade, push fade, same thing. Inside-out swing, slightly open club face. The purpose is to avoid hooking the ball. When you do it right, there is nothing to fix. It's an awesome golf shot. This is the shot I usually set up for, but my longest drives wind up as high push draws because I get the face slightly closed. My best drives are usually 250-260. Last time out, though, I hit one perfect fade (about10-20 degrees) straight as as arrow that went 290+ yards (no wind or elevation change). That is the shot the pros use. Sure wish I could do it more often.

[soloredd]

I wish I could hit a fade off the tee consistently. About a month ago I started to learn this at the driving range and ever since then my driver has turned into a big slicing mess. My only fix to this point has been to go to a stronger grip with the driver or grip down an inch or so. I'm sure I'm coming over the top I just can't figure out how to stop it. None of my other clubs do this (maybe my 3 wood once in a while).