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Taggsy, you seem to have misunderstood the tone and nature of this thread and our use of "terms" like "PA5." Clearly this isn't a technical discussion because, "per the definitions" and "per TGM", there is no PA5!!!

This thread is not a technical discussion of TGM. Dave and I are confident in our TGM knowledge, and I'd caution you on saying that our "understanding is wrong," particularly if it's based largely on this thread.

This thread exists simply because this "right wrist throwing action" has not been discussed much at all (the Flail doesn't cover it, sorry), and in many circles instructors get too caught up in "maintain maintain maintain maintain" (right forearm flying wedge) when that's clearly not what happens among the game's better players. Clearly the game's better players are not "maintaining" the RFFW well into and beyond the follow-through.

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... it's very easy for you to say "the majority of the book is wrong".

Not once have I said "the majority of the book is wrong." I have tremendous respect for the book and its author.

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Originally Posted by colin007

i see a lot of the term "timing" in reference to the "throwing" of PA5 - question - is there a way to practice "good" timing?


It's going to vary per person. Someone who float loads and has a snap release (Sergio perhaps) is going to "time" it later because he's capable of "throwing" faster. Someone like Jason Zuback who doesn't cast or flip but who has a sweep release will "time" it to end at the same time but the throwing action starts earlier.

The point Dave and I have tried to make, though, is that this is not something to worry about for 99% of golfers. Too many golfers "throw" the clubhead prematurely . These types of golfers need to spend more time working on not throwing the clubhead, or feeling like they "retain" the right wrist flying wedge.

The goal is still - and always has been - to line the club up with the left arm just after impact. If it's happening before impact, you've likely got some problems.

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Just saw this clip, made me think of this thread.  Watch the right wrist.

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That kinda looks like what I've heard the poster of the video refer to as a knife edge strike.

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