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Ok... so i have been lurking around on this site for a while now... more of less afraid to post because i just really don't know to much about golf...  In fact I'm pretty new to the game itself...

I recently played my 2nd round of 18 holes ever, and it did not go to well... because on the 3rd hole i sliced the ball pretty bad and it curved hard right and broke a 6'x6' double pane window.

I wanted to be honest (plus i assumed that there would be insurance for this)  so i knocked on the door and talked  the home owner... He informed me that there was not such thing as window insurance and it ended up costing me $650 dollars!!!!!

i was super bummed the rest of the holes and incredibly distracted...  so i played horribly.

I really don't want to give up on golf so i thought of a neat way to practice on my swing without it costing me $650 dollars every time i play...LOL!

I used a small little projector that i normally use for presentations with my business to project Dustin Johnson's swing so i could mimic it... Now i was doing it in my small office so i could not do a very proper swing but what do you guys think?! :)


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Well.. for one.. you're using an iron to mimic, what looks like, a 3-wood swing.

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There are many things that go into a golf swing that you can't see (especially just from that angle) but have to happen in order to hit the ball properly.  Lessons are a lot cheaper than $650, and would probably be more beneficial for you.

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I know this, but keep in mind that there are TONS of videos on youtube with every different kind of angle  this was meant to be an example of an angle not the end all be all of swing tutorials...


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Originally Posted by anotherday

Well.. for one.. you're using an iron to mimic, what looks like, a 3-wood swing.


the ceiling in my office is too short to use a wood... though at my house i have vaulted ceilings and it seems to work great... (i should have probably shot the video there...)


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Originally Posted by REALLYteedOFF

I know this, but keep in mind that there are TONS of videos on youtube with every different kind of angle  this was meant to be an example of an angle not the end all be all of swing tutorials...

While true, they're all of different players with many different variations on virtually all of the components.

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What you ought to do to improve this is put a mirror on the floor close to your ball that is angled in such a way that you can see the projection on the wall and your shadow... I will use a full mirror to look at my swing sometimes but just the act of looking at the window makes it hard to swing correctly....

despite what others say I think this will help you...

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Please take a look at the position of your head and that of Dustin's.  You are committing the same flaw as that of 80% of all golfers, i.e. your head is coming up well before the impact zone.  How can you hit an object if you are not looking at it. Watch the pros and you will see that their heads stay relatively steady until well after impact.  Like you, I suffered from this same flaw.  Then invented the PRO-HEAD Trainer and developed the mental and physical memory to keep my head steady.  The PRO-HEAD Trainer utilizes the same teaching technique used by Jack Grout, when he taught Jack Nicklaus. And Martin Hall, Golf Channel's Teacher in their 2011 weekly Golf School has endorsed the patented product.  If you are serious about improving your swing, take a look at www.pro-head.com.


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Hey, how about using this projector with those golf simulators that they sell online?  The projector they recommend is $800, but it looks a bit overkill..maybe plus it's HDMI or VGA version while the AAXA M2 is VGA and HDMI....could be a good alternative?  TeedOff should try that system with is M2 projector.


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I had trouble telling you apart from DJ.  Was it him or you on the screen?

Originally Posted by REALLYteedOFF

so i could mimic it... Now i was doing it in my small office so i could not do a very proper swing but what do you guys think?! :)


In all seriousness, I think that if you are going to try to mimic it, them do it somewhere that you can mimic it properly.  I do think it is a good idea to try to mimic a good swing, but by having to pull your head up to look at the swing on the screen you get in a different position from the get go.  I think you are better off using a mirror and trying to copy his set-up first.  Notice that he has a lot less knee flex than you do (in your second swing especially).  Once you get comfortable with the set-up, then you can practice the various swing positions.

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