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If you could only have one which would you choose?

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Originally Posted by mcfc_nick

Our course finishes with the 17th being a par-5 and the 18th a par-3 and at the tournament at the weekend in two consecutive groups one player had a 2 on the 17th, and then a guy in the next group had a 1 on the 18th! just got me wondering if you could only have one in your life would you rather have an albatross (double eagle) or a hole in one?



I'll take the double eagle any day.  It's a much more difficult accomplishment.  And that isn't just because I already have 2 aces - even if I had none I'd still take the 2 on a par 5.

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ochmude Well Established Member

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Originally Posted by johnny2balls

It's obvious in this thread when we say ace, we are meaning a hole in one on a par three.  Of course a hole in one on a par 4 is also called an ace but it's more often than not referred to as a double eagle or albatross .

an ace or hole in one on a par 3 is 2 under par.

an albatross on a par 4 or 5 is 3 under par and the hardest score to get in the game of golf (besides a hole in one on a par 5 which I have never heard of)

so tell me again why anybody in their right mind would rather have an ace over an albatross?

how many people in the US get a hole in one on any given day.  Maybe 100?  how about an albatross,  maybe 1 or less than that?  Look at the PGA stats on both of them.


To tell you again, it's because no one would care if I got an albatross.  If I got an ace during a round, I could go home and post on Facebook "got a hole in one today!" and a bunch of people would comment and congratulate me.  If I got an albatross, I could post "got an albatross today!" and, no one, literally no one would know what on earth I'm talking about.  I could then say it's a double eagle, 3 under par on a par 5.  They still wouldn't really care.  That's why I'd prefer an ace.  It has a lot more recognition and it would be a lot more fun to brag about.

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This. I want to mark a one down. When I first saw this thread I was ready to say HIO no question, but the comments definitely had me changing my opinion. But no, I want the uno.

Wondering...Do you have to buy your foursome a drink if you double-eagle/albatross??

Originally Posted by saevel25

I would probably be more excited about the Ace because its a 1 on the scorecard.




johnny2balls Established Member

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Originally Posted by ochmude

To tell you again, it's because no one would care if I got an albatross.  If I got an ace during a round, I could go home and post on Facebook "got a hole in one today!" and a bunch of people would comment and congratulate me.  If I got an albatross, I could post "got an albatross today!" and, no one, literally no one would know what on earth I'm talking about.  I could then say it's a double eagle, 3 under par on a par 5.  They still wouldn't really care.  That's why I'd prefer an ace.  It has a lot more recognition and it would be a lot more fun to brag about.

Yeah I guess you are right, it's all about what others think.


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I'd take the hole in one. I'm guessing that most albatross' you can't really see the ball go in the cup. But on a 160 yard par 3, you'd really get the see the ball just roll in the cup. It's magic.


ochmude Well Established Member

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Originally Posted by johnny2balls

Yeah I guess you are right, it's all about what others think.

How delightfully passive-aggressive of you.  You could just say "I don't really see it that way."  It's okay that you don't respect my opinion.  I will still respect yours.  I certainly see you're point, but I feel differently about it.

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clubhousehero Well Established Member

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It would kinda depend on how my round was going.  If it was a great round,  double eagle please!  If it was a bad round, the hole in one just so i could say i had a hole in one.


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They say a double eagle is a 6 million to 1 chance of getting

Between 1983 to 2003, there were 631 aces on the PGA Tour but just 56 double-eagles - and never more than six albatrosses in one year

hole-in-one odds are in the neighborhood of 13,000-to-1 for the average golfer

Approximately 40,000 aces a year are made in the United States, compared to just a couple hundred double-eagles.


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