My Swing (carpediem4300)

[carpediem4300]

This swing was from around a week ago, this backswing is what i have been told for years is to flat, as i have been trying to swing rotationally, weight on to right then back to left or "classic swing"

Im now trying the stack and tilt swing, which i appear to prefer, any advice? could the backswing from above be applicable to S&T;?

PS: really sorry for such shoddy video, its my phone,

[carpediem4300]

UPDATE: Current swing. Duck hooking the hell out of my irons 😞

 

 

[iacas]

Right hand in particular too strong, face pretty closed coming down (resulting in you trying to push the ball right with the path).

[carpediem4300]

  On 4/4/2025 at 7:08 PM, iacas said:

Right hand in particular too strong, face pretty closed coming down (resulting in you trying to push the ball right with the path).

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Yeah I've been trying to weaken that hand (at the time I was also consciously trying to match clubface to spine)

 

I've found though weakening that hand kind of exacerbates the hook, I'm guessing a compensation from somewhere else creeps in 🤷🏻‍♂️

 

I've mentioned in my grip post that when I take my grip at address it is square, but if I stand up out of address and relax my arms it holds the hell out of the club, I have a lesson Tuesday hopefully to help but I just can't fathom why soft arms would hood the club, I would of thought it would open it 🤣

[iacas]

  On 4/5/2025 at 6:07 AM, carpediem4300 said:

I've mentioned in my grip post that when I take my grip at address it is square, but if I stand up out of address and relax my arms it holds the hell out of the club, I have a lesson Tuesday hopefully to help but I just can't fathom why soft arms would hood the club, I would of thought it would open it 🤣

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Because you're twisting it to hold it open. Forearms, etc. shouldn't be all that tense at setup.

[carpediem4300]

  On 4/5/2025 at 12:37 PM, iacas said:

Because you're twisting it to hold it open. Forearms, etc. shouldn't be all that tense at setup.

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Ah makes sense, so setting up tense means as my arms relax it hoods the club

 

So doing the opposite of setting up soft would likely keep square or open the face when tense, as opposites attract and all that

 

 

[carpediem4300]

Update, baby fades

 

 

[Stryper]

Geez I love seeing improvement like that. Well done. As someone whose "natural" swing is out to in 2-3 degrees I have to really stay on my front side (like 80%) to get that back to closer to 0 or even + for a draw. A big backswing also makes the path even worse. On the contrary a really short backswing with heavy front foot creates a hook. And to clarify, I feel that weight through my foot, knee and hip, it's not just leaning to the front side, it's almost like winding the coil in that front leg.

That's probably the exact opposite of what the textbooks say? Perhaps because the textbooks are for guys who hit the ball well with an in to out club path struggle taming a hook??

For some reason ANY conscious weight transfer to my back foot exacerbates everything and stops me getting through the ball and I stand up off the ball. When I'm trying to hit a cut I don't consciously hold weight forward (but I make sure I don't transfer back) and it works. I have very bad hips, knees, shoulders from decades of (falling off) motorbikes and (falling off) surfboards so I can only do what I can do      

I have found this "weight" approach works better for me than "try to swing in to out" using any method as I then lose impact angle and distance. With say an 8-iron I will lose 20m from my best shot even if it's a +2 path, because I just cannot get everything to work together.  

I don't know if any of that helps - I am certainly a trial and error guy and not a coach with any kind of theory to back up my ponderings - but I am learning what works for me by making weight my number one swing thought.

Edited April 8 by Stryper

[carpediem4300]

Weight shift is next on the list but I need to groove this new feel and then work it back to a better shot shape.

I started with a path +5 degrees out and a clubface -8 degrees. Hook city

Ended with a path -0.5 and clubface +5. Straight fade/slice

 

So now just to dial it back a touch. 

[Stryper]

  On 4/8/2025 at 8:56 PM, carpediem4300 said:

Weight shift is next on the list but I need to groove this new feel and then work it back to a better shot shape.

I started with a path +5 degrees out and a clubface -8 degrees. Hook city

Ended with a path -0.5 and clubface +5. Straight fade/slice

 

So now just to dial it back a touch. 

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Nice mate, very nice. I'd say forget about weight until what you're doing stops working and go win some beers from your mates while you're in the zone! 

 

Edited April 8 by Stryper

[iacas]

Good news.

Now you can get the grip out of your palm… 😄 

[carpediem4300]

  On 4/8/2025 at 11:42 PM, iacas said:

Good news.

Now you can get the grip out of your palm… 😄 

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Small hand syndrome, I said to the coach it felt palmy but he checked for me at the top of the backswing and said it was fine, still under the fat pad etc.

 

It will become less pronounced the more I strengthen it as I bring it a little stronger bit by bit until the ball flight straightens out

[iacas]

I disagree.