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Originally Posted by bplewis24

Post some video.  If I had to guess, I'd say you're trying to prevent deceleration/increase clubhead speed by swinging your arms faster which is resulting in an even more pronounced flip.


This is what it looks like you're doing to me ^^^

Your flip is very pronounced.  And flipping faster (which is likely what you're trying to do), doesn't increase club head speed at the point of impact.  I'd guess it probably has the opposite effect...but I'm still learning all this stuff myself.

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It looks like I am flipping/helping the ball.  Agree.  I have heard that flipping the ball creates a higher, or less penetrating ball flight, resulting in less distance.  One more point.  I lost 90 pounds in 2011 and it was at a steady rate of approximately 10-12 pounds a month and it coincided with the decline of my game.  I was frustrated and did some research and found the most famous case to be David Duval.  Apparently he lost considerable weight and got into better physical shape, but it wreaked havoc with his game because of the changes to his body.  Thanks.


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Can someone do a slow motion or a detail to show where his "flipping" is? I guess I really don't know what I'm looking for?? I tried to download the video, but it's private or something

Thanks


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Flipping is basically letting the club head get in front of your hands at impact....

Look at the pic below. Analyzr Image Export.jpg

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Thank you very much for the pics..now I see what flipping looks like...gotta go take a look at my videos:)

@WRV1, what makes you think you are decelerating on the DS, can you feel it or are you just going by what your observer said? (hope I didn't miss that in your earlier posts)


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Edit: somebody already took care of it :)

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The deceleration comment came from someone watching me but as I watch the video, I see the shaft flexing correctly at the top and then as I start to flip the club about half way down, you can see the shaft lose its lag and the shaft flex forward and lose all of its energy too early.  It may not be that I'm decelerating as much as I'm releasing the club too early.  Thoughts?  How do i fix it?


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Originally Posted by wrv1

The deceleration comment came from someone watching me but as I watch the video, I see the shaft flexing correctly at the top and then as I start to flip the club about half way down, you can see the shaft lose its lag and the shaft flex forward and lose all of its energy too early.  It may not be that I'm decelerating as much as I'm releasing the club too early.  Thoughts?  How do i fix it?



Wrv1, I'm really impressed at two things:  You lost 90 pounds (nice going!), and you can actually hit the ball like that.  You must have some serious hand-eye coordination.  Deceleration is the "symptom" not the disease.  First, move the ball just a little more forward in your stance.  Then check out these threads:

http://thesandtrap.com/t/31339/tour-striker-training-aid

http://thesandtrap.com/t/29616/the-biggest-secret-slide-your-hips

It's a long road my friend.  You have to give yourself time.  Same with the weight change.  Your brain, balance, and pretty much everything except your blood pressure and organs were nice and comfortable with your old weight.  It takes them some time to get used to the weight difference.  Just stay patient and keep plugging away.

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Hi Wrv1, here are some good videos to check out to improve the wrist conditions on the downswing.  The first one is called basic motion, something to try and copy.  Can practice this anywhere, great for feeling hands forward/compression.

This one is more full swing but similar idea.  You're hitting and stopping, smashing the ground

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Originally Posted by wrv1

The deceleration comment came from someone watching me but as I watch the video, I see the shaft flexing correctly at the top and then as I start to flip the club about half way down, you can see the shaft lose its lag and the shaft flex forward and lose all of its energy too early.  It may not be that I'm decelerating as much as I'm releasing the club too early.  Thoughts?  How do i fix it?


Are you referring to the detail as shown in post #41, I have been told the shaft looks the way it does in this picture do to camera errors.

I may be way off base here, but I do not think you could make the shaft do that by slowing down the swing....but what do I know?

Nice drills by mvmac


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How to fix a flip? Lots on the site. My two word answer:  TOUR STRIKER. Learn to hit the ball in the air and you've almost certainly fixed the flip.

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