Counterfeit Titleist AP2s

[The Tin Man]

E-bay does have a way that you can retract a bid due to a typing error.

If the guys smart he will take your $5000 - buy a legitimate set and send that to you.

[Old1964]

Originally Posted by The Tin Man

E-bay does have a way that you can retract a bid due to a typing error.

If the guys smart he will take your $5000 - buy a legitimate set and send that to you.

Crapping pants at this point!

[Hoselrockets]

Ebay doesn't work like that...in order for the 5K bid to come into play someone else would have to bid it upto $4990.

[moparman426]

Originally Posted by Hoselrockets

Ebay doesn't work like that...in order for the 5K bid to come into play someone else would have to bid it upto $4990.

/prepares to make a $4990 bid......

Muahahahahahaah!!!!!

[RichWW2]

Bidding on them is the worst idea in the world.  Reporting them to ebay as fakes is the right thing to do.  Winning the bid to prove a point can only turn around and bite you in the @$$.  I don't think you want to possibly be out $800 or more while the clubs are in dispute... Doesn't seem like it's worth it to prove someone is a liar. Report it and leave it at that. Don't get involved.  Maybe that's just me though.  Best of luck sir!

[Hoselrockets]

Originally Posted by moparman426

/prepares to make a $4990 bid......

Muahahahahahaah!!!!!

LOL......the current high bid is $800

[tristanhilton85]

I'd retract that bid while you can... It's cool that you realized that the clubs were fake and reported it but dumb idea to bid on them.

[The Tin Man]

Once the auction has only 12 hrs to go the procedure to retract a bid gets more difficult.

http://pages.ebay.com/help/buy/bid-retract.html

[Motley01]

I just talked to ebay customer service. They said when the auction gets closer to end, it will get higher priortiy to be reviewed for them to end the auction.

And in no way I would be on the hook. You do not have to pay for the item. If I don't pay for the item, then the transaction is canceled. If the seller can report me. Once that happens I tell them it's counterfeit and that is the reason why the non-payment.

Oh and the seller canceled my bid anyways. So now I'm completely out of it anyways.

So let me repeat the ebay process. When your bid wins an auction. You do not have to pay for it. Period. Straight from the ebay customer service.

[moparman426]

Originally Posted by Motley01

So let me repeat the ebay process. When your bid wins an auction. You do not have to pay for it. Period. Straight from the ebay customer service.

Let me fix that for you:

"So let me repeat the ebay process. When your bid wins an auction where the item has been found to be counterfeit . You do not have to pay for it. Period. Straight from the ebay customer service."

[Motley01]

Originally Posted by moparman426

Let me fix that for you:

"So let me repeat the ebay process. When your bid wins an auction where the item has been found to be counterfeit. You do not have to pay for it. Period. Straight from the ebay customer service."

Um sorry, not correct. Anyone can win an auction, but not pay. I have had non-paying buyers when I was selling things. I never got paid, so the transaction was canceled.

What would ebay do? Paypal can't take money out of your account.

As long as you don't do it all the time, they keep track how many non-paying auctions you have in the past.

[moparman426]

Originally Posted by Motley01

As long as you don't do it all the time, they keep track how many non-paying auctions you have in the past.

This was my point.  If you keep ignoring the auctions you have "won" by not paying for them, you get reported.  Get reported enough, and your account gets terminated.  Period.  It costs sellers money to list items, and they get charged if it's a NPB or not.  Not paying for something you legitimately won makes you a douche.  If you didn't want it (why the hell did you bid in the first place), contact the seller so he/she can cancel your bid, and the next person in line that actually wants the item can have a chance at winning it.  It's your cavalier attitude that ruins it for the rest of us.

[Golfingdad]

Originally Posted by moparman426

This was my point.  If you keep ignoring the auctions you have "won" by not paying for them, you get reported.  Get reported enough, and your account gets terminated.  Period.  It costs sellers money to list items, and they get charged if it's a NPB or not.  Not paying for something you legitimately won makes you a douche.  If you didn't want it (why the hell did you bid in the first place), contact the seller so he/she can cancel your bid, and the next person in line that actually wants the item can have a chance at winning it.  It's your cavalier attitude that ruins it for the rest of us.

Except in the case we are talking about there are extenuating circumstances.  He's trying to A) Prevent a seller from making money off of counterfeit products, and B) Prevent somebody from unwittingly buying counterfeit products.  I would say that makes him the opposite of a douche.  (That doesn't sound quite right, but you get what I mean)

[moparman426]

Originally Posted by Golfingdad

Except in the case we are talking about there are extenuating circumstances.  He's trying to A) Prevent a seller from making money off of counterfeit products, and B) Prevent somebody from unwittingly buying counterfeit products.  I would say that makes him the opposite of a douche.  (That doesn't sound quite right, but you get what I mean)

You are miss-reading it.  I in fact said the same thing, because the items were counterfeit, but Motley01 is implying that it applies to all auctions, no matter what the circumstances are , with no real recourse against the bidder.  Outside of these "extenuating" circumstances, for a normal auction, it would be a douchebag thing to do (which is what I implied).

[moparman426]

Originally Posted by Motley01

So let me repeat the ebay process. When your bid wins an auction. You do not have to pay for it. Period. Straight from the ebay customer service.

Originally Posted by moparman426

Let me fix that for you:

"So let me repeat the ebay process. When your bid wins an auction where the item has been found to be counterfeit. You do not have to pay for it. Period. Straight from the ebay customer service."

Originally Posted by Golfingdad

Except in the case we are talking about there are extenuating circumstances.  He's trying to A) Prevent a seller from making money off of counterfeit products, and B) Prevent somebody from unwittingly buying counterfeit products.  I would say that makes him the opposite of a douche.  (That doesn't sound quite right, but you get what I mean)

There, I compiled the two differing views for you.  After those posts, we're talking about bidding in general, on legitimate items.

[Golfingdad]

Originally Posted by moparman426

You are miss-reading it.  I in fact said the same thing, because the items were counterfeit, but Motley01 is implying that it applies to all auctions, no matter what the circumstances are, with no real recourse to the bidder.  Outside of these "extenuating" circumstances, for a a normal auction, it would be a douchebag thing to do.

I understand, but you are jumping to a conclusion that he is a douche with a cavalier attitude who ruins it for the rest of us by doing this sort of thing all the time.  I'm saying that the facts are only this:

1.  He happens to know the rules (and according to him, its because its happened to him several times as a seller )

2.  He is trying to prevent somebody from moving counterfeit clubs by taking advantage of these rules this time.

So, in this case, I think its OK.  In other cases, I totally agree, it would be a douchebag thing to do, but there is no evidence to support your implication and I think it's uncalled for.

[moparman426]

Originally Posted by Golfingdad

So, in this case, I think its OK.  In other cases, I totally agree, it would be a douchebag thing to do, but there is no evidence to support your implication and I think it's uncalled for.

WOOSH! (That's the sound of this conversation flying over your head)

Forget the counterfeit case already.  We are talking about bids in general, and he outright said he has no problem with not paying for an auction that he has won because he wouldn't get punished for it, no matter what the circumstances. There, I bolded it for you.  I don't have to jump to a conclusion, because he said it himself.

[Golfingdad]

Originally Posted by moparman426

WOOSH!  (That's the sound of this conversation flying over your head)

Forget the counterfeit case already.  We are talking about bids in general, and he outright said he has no problem with not paying for an auction that he has won because he wouldn't get punished for it, no matter what the circumstances.  There, I bolded it for you.  I don't have to jump to a conclusion, because he said it himself.

Nope, trust me, I understand 100% what we are talking about.  Read back and tell me where he says he's done this in any case other than this one please.

All he has said is that the rules will allow him to do it, and he knows it because its happened to him as a seller.

("Um sorry, not correct. Anyone can win an auction, but not pay. I have had non-paying buyers when I was selling things. I never got paid, so the transaction was canceled.")

There is a difference between knowing that there is a loophole in the rules and being a douchebag who uses that loophole.