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I dont know if this is a swing problem or a club problem (probably swing). If i were to hit 10 iron shots 9 of them would be off the toe. I am a short guy (5'5") and my clubs are not fit for me. If a club is too upright would a result be consistent off the toe shots or should i just get a lesson and learn a new swing. I am getting new irons soon and will definately be custom fitted.

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Hard to say for sure without seeing a video but my first step would be stand a little closer to the ball, might be standing too far away from it. You also could be bringing your hands in to your body too much which would cause the club to be closer and result in toe hits. In the students I have worked with more often then not it is standing too far. Doesn't make it easy when your clubs aren't fit for you, try to at least get them in somewhere to have them cut to the proper length, shouldn't cost too much.

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I would definitely try standing closer to see if that is the problem.  If not, try standing FURTHER away from the ball.  I had this problem awhile back and that was my cure.  I think I subconsciously knew I was too close to the ball and was pulling my hands in to compensate.

On the other hand, this could be a 'fix' that you will immediately have to unlearn once you get fitted clubs.  So maybe do nothing until the new ones come in??

Good luck.

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And it could have nothing to do at all with how far you're standing from the ball........ lol

I used to have the same problem, and I'm the same height and my clubs were fitted.  It didn't matter how far/close I stood to the ball, I typically hit it just off the toe, like half on the grooves, half off.  Consistent enough to be putting a wear mark in the wrong place on the clubs.  Mine was all in my swing, I was coming outside/in and cutting across the ball pretty hard.  My typical shot because of this was a pull fade.  I had just learned to play it and was scoring decent like that (mid 80's), but as soon as I fixed my swing path, I was 6-10 yards longer with each club.


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I was having the same toe hit problem a few months ago and went by the pro shop where I was fitted for my Pings to see if they needed adjusting. One of the guys watched me hit some balls and had me choke down about 1/2" and move the ball back in my stance just a bit and to make sure my hands were ahead of the ball. I guess my ball position had moved over time but with that adjust I started hitting the ball solid. Might be something to try.

I did buy a Tour Striker to practice with and it really helps getting the hands in front at impact.


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People who hit the ball off the toe tend to swing left (pulls/cuts/slices). I'd investigate your swing path first.

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I have had that problem of hitting on the toe, especially with irons, and how close I stand is important.  Another variable I found to affect the result is where the ball is relative to the width of the club face at address.  I get better results if I position the club so that the ball is nearer to the hosel.  I used impact stickers to indicate just where on the club width that the ball was struck. I must add, however, that just the opposite effect occurs with my driver; I find that I need to position the driver face (at address) nearer to the toe, or else it hits too near the hosel.  There are a bunch of variables involved to get a good golf shot, and I by no means get it right all the time.  But give some attention to where the ball is relatively to the club face width and it might help, and get some impacts stickers for feedback.

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If swing is not the problem, maybe your shafts are too short. A quarter- or half-inch can make a difference.

But, I would check out your swing first.

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