VoidOfEnigmas Tip of the Day: Tips for hitting a cut

[VoidOfEnigmas]

Everyones pushed it off the tee and had a big branch in the way of the green. What do you do to get that aggressive cut when you need it? Here's some tips that i Think might help. Again I love the debates going on and some even better tips coming out.

1.  setup to the left, we're not trying to get you to pull across the shot for a pull slice.

2.  I like to pull back my left foot about 6 inches, a few wont like this tip but it makes it easier for me to use my hips in the shot.

3.  Offset the face slightly to the right, practice on the range will tell you how much to offset it. Take a normal swing and just focus on not bringing it back inside.

Hope this helps Thanks :)

[Adam Young]

If I open may stance and open the face, I just get a high weak shot. I have developed what I call a 'trap fade' or some would call it a power fade.

Basically, I aim right (yes right), then pull right across my body like a slicer going over the top. I keep the hands from rotating in the impact area to keep the face open.

This allows me to hit a fade with a closed face. I.e. swing path is 10 degrees left of body line, clubface is 5 degrees left. This means that I can hit a fade with less loft, as a closed face generally has less dynamic loft. This puts more sidespin on the ball (or tilts the spin axis of the ball more to the horizontal - whatever floats ur boat) and hence I can move the ball more.

I used to really struggle with a fade/slice as I was from the inside with my swing. This meant that, as my path was 10 degrees to the right, I would have to have the face at least 11 or more degrees open - but then it had so much loft it wouldn't fade, just go straight right (a clubface push slice).

All you ahve to do to fade it, is get the face more open to the path - but understand that there are ways to do this that will promote more curvature with the same clubs, as changes are generally not made in isolation. again - exploration of differing variables is key

[VoidOfEnigmas]

I find that players with more of a beginner ability in the game are more likely to top it if I ask them to pull it across.

[Adam Young]

Originally Posted by voidofenigmas

I find that players with more of a beginner ability in the game are more likely to top it if I ask them to pull it across.

yup - was just explaining how i hit a fade.

When I am dealing with a beginner, I will mainly just go through clubface - though depends what i have in front of me as a pupil. If they have played tennis, i will relate it to cutspin

[VoidOfEnigmas]

Originally Posted by Adam Young

yup - was just explaining how i hit a fade.

When I am dealing with a beginner, I will mainly just go through clubface - though depends what i have in front of me as a pupil. If they have played tennis, i will relate it to cutspin

exactly, I use that exact line I love tennis players trying to learn golf. They're always the best beginning pupils.

[iacas]

Face left of target, path farther left. Ball a touch forward, hands a bit back, perhaps.

[Adam Young]

Originally Posted by iacas

Face left of target, path farther left. Ball a touch forward, hands a bit back, perhaps.

I usually find when I have my hands back and ball forward - even if I do get the face open to the path the ball is just high and weak. Sometimes having the ball forward in the stance helps me swing more left of my body line, depends what type of fade I am hitting. I usually get the most curvature when my hands are more forward of the ball whilst swinging left - this can help me keep the face open for a start, but mainly take the loft off the club resulting in more curvature with the same face/path combo

[iacas]

I usually find when I have my hands back and ball forward - even if I do get the face open to the path the ball is just high and weak. Sometimes having the ball forward in the stance helps me swing more left of my body line, depends what type of fade I am hitting. I usually get the most curvature when my hands are more forward of the ball whilst swinging left - this can help me keep the face open for a start, but mainly take the loft off the club resulting in more curvature with the same face/path combo

I'm talking about at setup, not at impact. The handle is still forward of the ball at impact. Not necessarily as forward as with a draw, but still forward. But it's undeniably true that moving the ball slightly forward (a ball at most) and the handle back (an inch, maybe two) can help hit a cut, just as moving the ball back and putting the handle forward help to hit a draw.

[Adam Young]

Originally Posted by iacas

I'm talking about at setup, not at impact. The handle is still forward of the ball at impact. Not necessarily as forward as with a draw, but still forward.

But it's undeniably true that moving the ball slightly forward (a ball at most) and the handle back (an inch, maybe two) can help hit a cut, just as moving the ball back and putting the handle forward help to hit a draw.

why? not saying its not true, but why dos it work?

[VoidOfEnigmas]

I can't speak to what happens but the body tries to correct the placement and either opens or closes the hands.

[iacas]

why? not saying its not true, but why dos it work?

I'm sure if you think about it you can figure it out. :-)