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Hey,

I am thinking about buying a new driver as my r7 425 with a purple ice shaft is kind of outdated by now.

What are your thougths on this? How is my r7 comparing to newer technology drivers like the Burner Superfast 2.0? Is it worth upgrading?

I really appreciate your answers...

Thanks a lot!

In my Bag:

Driver: Taylormade R7 425 10,5°, Graphite Design Purple Ice 85 Regular
#3 Wood: Taylormade R7 Steel 15°, RE*AX 70 Stiff

#4 Rescue: Taylormade Rescue Hybrid 09 22°, RE*AX 65 Stiff
3-PW Irons: MP-32 ProjectX 6.0
Wedges: MP-T Black Nickel 51.6 and 56.14 Spinner Rifle Shafts
Putter: Studio Style Newport 2.5 35''

Golfclub Schloss Myllendonk (Par 72, CR 72,9, Slope 134)


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Well what is your issue now with your current driver? Technology wise that club will go as far as any club on the market today. But also depends on shaft and whether or not you need/want to change lofts. May be best to get fitted for a new shaft as that will probably help you the most.
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Originally Posted by dhy8386

Well what is your issue now with your current driver? Technology wise that club will go as far as any club on the market today. But also depends on shaft and whether or not you need/want to change lofts. May be best to get fitted for a new shaft as that will probably help you the most.

+1 on this.  Only worth it if you are getting fit for the new club.

Driver:  Callaway Diablo Octane 9.5*
3W:  Callaway GBB II 12.5*, 5W:  Callaway Diablo 18* Neutral
3H:  Callaway Razr X, 4H:  Callaway Razr X
5-PW:  Callaway X Tour
GW:  Callaway X Tour 54*, SW:  Callaway X Tour 58*
Putter:  Callaway ITrax, Scotty Cameron Studio Design 2, Ping Anser 4


Posted

Thanks for your answers so far!

Tomorrow, I will go to a golfshop which has a launch monitor and I will compare my driver to newer ones. I was was just curious about your opinions.

I don't really have an issue with my driver but I was wandering if a new one could be easier to hit, etc...

Best regards

Philip

In my Bag:

Driver: Taylormade R7 425 10,5°, Graphite Design Purple Ice 85 Regular
#3 Wood: Taylormade R7 Steel 15°, RE*AX 70 Stiff

#4 Rescue: Taylormade Rescue Hybrid 09 22°, RE*AX 65 Stiff
3-PW Irons: MP-32 ProjectX 6.0
Wedges: MP-T Black Nickel 51.6 and 56.14 Spinner Rifle Shafts
Putter: Studio Style Newport 2.5 35''

Golfclub Schloss Myllendonk (Par 72, CR 72,9, Slope 134)


Posted

Just go try the new gear out, this will answer the question for you, i have a Ping G20 and Titleist 910d2 and love them both but if new better gear comes out then its a no brainer that an upgrade will come.

I would recomend trying:

Ping I20 / G20

Titleist 910 D2/D3

Adams Fast 12

Callway Razr Fit

I work in a pro shop and hit them all and they all produce impressive results when matched with the correct shaft!

Driver: 913d2 9.5 Deg Stiff                                                                       

Fairway: 913f 15 Deg Stiff   

Hybrid: 913h 21 Deg Stiff                             

Irons: MP59 4-PW Stiff

Wedges: Vokey SM4 50, 54 & 58 Deg

Putter: White Hot Tour No.9

Ball: 2013 Pro V1

 


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R7 425 is a holy grail driver to some - I saw one at the PGA Tour Superstore for $59.

It was always a driver for the better player, and yes, I know, everybody used it, but that does translate to lower scores. Everybody (I mean "a lot" of the market)  bought an R11 when they made their debut, but it did not help their scores. I played with guys who had no business with an R11 and sprayed them deep into the woods.

If you are a better player, I'd say keep it around.

But you have better alternatives today - many manufacturers are going with a soft triangle head that makes the head more stable at impact, weighting is lower and moved back for higher launch and less spin, face technology has evolved, etc.

But it was a nice club head - very sweet feel for many.

And if you decide to do away with it - I think, think ebay will be a better place than a trade-in unless the store is offering promotions on trades.

Ping G400 Max 9/TPT Shaft, TEE EX10 Beta 4, 5 wd, PXG 22 HY, Mizuno JPX919F 5-GW, TItleist SM7 Raw 55-09, 59-11, Bettinardi BB39

 

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Originally Posted by Mr. Desmond

R7 425 is a holy grail driver to some - I saw one at the PGA Tour Superstore for $59.

It was always a driver for the better player, and yes, I know, everybody used it, but that does translate to lower scores. Everybody (I mean "a lot" of the market)  bought an R11 when they made their debut, but it did not help their scores. I played with guys who had no business with an R11 and sprayed them deep into the woods.

If you are a better player, I'd say keep it around.

But you have better alternatives today - many manufacturers are going with a soft triangle head that makes the head more stable at impact, weighting is lower and moved back for higher launch and less spin, face technology has evolved, etc.

But it was a nice club head - very sweet feel for many.

And if you decide to do away with it - I think, think ebay will be a better place than a trade-in unless the store is offering promotions on trades.

Argh so you're saying it's not good for a beginner? I just got one for $30 used and in great condition. Thought it was a good deal...


Posted
Originally Posted by AnalogAG

Hey,

I am thinking about buying a new driver as my r7 425 with a purple ice shaft is kind of outdated by now.

THe r7 425 is still one of the best drivers out there.

Great shape. Great feel. Great sound.

In the race of life, always back self-interest. At least you know it's trying.

 

 


Posted
Originally Posted by n3gkiwi

Argh so you're saying it's not good for a beginner? I just got one for $30 used and in great condition. Thought it was a good deal...

It is a good deal.

Depends on the beginner. I doubt if any driver will work for a beginner, so go after it.

Ping G400 Max 9/TPT Shaft, TEE EX10 Beta 4, 5 wd, PXG 22 HY, Mizuno JPX919F 5-GW, TItleist SM7 Raw 55-09, 59-11, Bettinardi BB39

 

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