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Im just getting back into golf and want to fade the ball from L to R.

Two of the greatest faders of the ball were Hogan and Nicklaus.

Nicklaus advocated coming at the ball from the outside with a slightly open clubface and from what i gather hogan is known for coming at the ball from the inside and still fading the ball.

In Nicklaus' Golf My Way he states: " I was still basically committed to a fading technique at that time, but you try fading when the club moves into the ball from inside your intended line. NO WAY!"

so Nicklaus was very adamant about the club having to come from the OUTSIDE of the line to fade the ball yet Hogan was well known for coming from the INSIDE of the line"

any thoughts/ideas??
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Originally Posted by austintennis

Im just getting back into golf and want to fade the ball from L to R.

Two of the greatest faders of the ball were Hogan and Nicklaus.

Nicklaus advocated coming at the ball from the outside with a slightly open clubface and from what i gather hogan is known for coming at the ball from the inside and still fading the ball.

In Nicklaus' Golf My Way he states: " I was still basically committed to a fading technique at that time, but you try fading when the club moves into the ball from inside your intended line. NO WAY!"

so Nicklaus was very adamant about the club having to come from the OUTSIDE of the line to fade the ball yet Hogan was well known for coming from the INSIDE of the line"

any thoughts/ideas??

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It depends on what "line" they're talking about.

What's true about both? Both pointed the clubface at impact just left of the target, and swung a little bit farther to the left than that.

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Originally Posted by austintennis

Huh? clubface closed to hit a fade? needs to be open

Open to what?

To hit a fade, the club face needs to be pointed to the left (for righties) of the target line.  It needs to be a bit open to the swingpath .

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Originally Posted by austintennis

Huh? clubface closed to hit a fade? needs to be open

Nope. Initial ball-flight is determined by the angle of the clubface, while shot shape is determined by the path of the club in relation to the face. To hit a pull-fade, the club would have to be slightly closed at impact, with the path of the club further left.

Tyler Martin

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