anyone think the traction 85 stiff shafts is more like a regular

[spam]

I was fired with a stiff on my Cleveland 588 mt irons. I finally got them in and the shafts feel a little whippy may just be me or the fact that it was the 3 iron. Just wondering if anyone else had the same thoughts or knew something about the flex rating in the stiff.

[TMBridgestone]

These are 85g?  That's extremely light for stiff flex unless they are graphite (than it is normal).  My stiff flex steel shafts are 109g.

[spam]

im not sure all I know is that they say traction 85 stiff flex which is what the fitter said I needed with my 7 iron swing speed and carry distance. 85g is super light though

[Dave2512]

As I mentioned in the other thread pull of a grip and look at the butt end. I ordered TT's and a few Altitude's s-flex and my shafts are tagged CG16 100g despite being banded TR85. Well they were I have KBS in there now.

[spam]

yeah I read that one too. Did your shafts seem a little whippy even with the tt lights in there. before the kbs shafts

[WUTiger]

I dumped the mid-heavy stiff shafts about 2009 and went to regular.

I'm noticing, however, that on the lightweight steel shafts I can handle a stiff quite well on some models.

I'm finding a crossover point for shaft weight and flex. The Traction85 gram shafts - even in stiff - just feel too light; it's hard to tell when I'm at the top. It has a mid-kick point - medium launch - but I don't know the tip info.

For a time Cleveland used a TRAction shaft in its wedges: a Wedgeflex with a more flexible tip for extra spin, and a stiffer butt for a little lower launch. (Similar dynamics to the Spinner Flex - but TRAction has no shaft joint below the grip.).

You can order the MT, TT, and Altitude irons with an NS Pro 950 that weighs 95 grams in R and 98 grams in S. (Don't know if NS is an upcharge).