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Hi guys, Harry here from indonesia, love this game so much and hopefully i can gel wit u guys If any of you happen to visit Indonesia, especially Surabaya, i'll be gladly to accompany you for a round or two and show you around :-D Hari "I'm not talented, that's why i work harder than most people"

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