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brand new to golf....i took 1 lesson and have been going to range every day....going to continue with a couple more lessons and daily  driving range but i'd like some online reading material and any advice from experienced players i can get....thanks in advance!!

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isukgolf Great Member

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Do some searches around the sandtrap ... some really great advice buried in threads! The 5 keys is really good.
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brand new to golf....i took 1 lesson and have been going to range every day....going to continue with a couple more lessons and daily  driving range but i'd like some online reading material and any advice from experienced players i can get....thanks in advance!!

You've come to the right place. Welcome to TST. There's enough material here to keep you busy for at least a couple of days worth of reading...maybe more.. :-D We have some great instructors here, and some very knowledgeable folks to help you. Please take a minuet and use the search function, should give a ton of threads on golf.

Also, if you have a video camera, you can video yourself making a golf swing, and post in the Member Swing forum, there are guidelines there to help you film, and how to post it. Above all, enjoy your stay, and feel free to jump in a thread..

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Welcome.

I recommend Lowest Score Wins as a fine read for all players. In fact I envy you; having that resource before developing poor habits.

Good luck - I'm sure you can shave a few strokes off of that 1000 index in no time!

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If you want to get better at this game, you need to do three things (and obviously plenty more), and you need to actually commit to them. 1. Your fundamentals need to be sound. That means your grip, your posture, your alignment, and your ball position. I would practice these in the basement for a few weeks. If you can get these four things in good form, your swing is going to fall into place I promise!!! For the grip, I would check out Hogan's 5 fundamentals book, but if you don't want to spend any money, I would say the most important thing in the grip (personal opinion) is that your left hand is on the club correctly. You should be able to hold the entire weight of the club between the palm pad, and your last three fingers (pinky,ring,middle). With posture, just look up adam scott dtl on youtube and mirror that. Having a big mirror at home helps a ton! For alignment, go buy yourself a driveway reflector stick at home depot or lowes (same as what they sell in golf stores except $10 cheaper). Work with this at the range (remember that you should line it parallel left to your target- meaning the alignment stick will actually be aimed slightly left of the target). Ball position is all you! Experiment with it and find what works best. 2. Work on your routine- there is a reason all the pros have one. I recommend reading Vision 54. Great book that will elaborate on this, and help your mental game tremendously 3. Be disciplined- you are going to come across a lot of tips and tricks in this game, and I encourage you try some out, but if it doesn't work for you, don't do it! A huge part of the game is finding out the things that help you get the ball in the hole the best. It doesn't have to be pretty (of course unless you want it to- if you do I wish you luck its a long process). Here are a few tools that will totally transform your game, and they have nothing to do with golf- Day One journaling app- if you've got an android or iPhone, spend $5 on this app. It allows you to create tags for your journal entries, so as you practice, I would create tabs for different parts of your game. Say you figure something out with your putting- create a tag labeled "putting," and write down what you figured out. After a while, you will start noticing patterns in the things that have worked for you, and you can then focus on those things! Stickk.com- this is an interesting one, but it actually is one of the most helpful sites out there right now. Essentially, you set a goal (Ex: I want to practice my fundamentals 15 minutes a day), and then you register your credit card, and if you fail to meet your goal (you have to be honest with yourself), the site automatically donates your specified amount of money to an "anti-charity." In my opinion, it is a great incentive. Best of luck to you! Keep working hard, and remember everyone struggles with this game!

Favorite Golf Quote: "The harder you work, the luckier you get" - Gary Player

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brand new to golf....i took 1 lesson and have been going to range every day....going to continue with a couple more lessons and daily  driving range but i'd like some online reading material and any advice from experienced players i can get....thanks in advance!!

Check out the following.

http://thesandtrap.com/a/helpful-instructional-threads-and-links

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