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I am trying to determine the proper shaft type and length for myself. If possible, I would prefer to stick with a standard length in order to avoid additional costs for custom fit clubs. I am 6'2 and have a 37-1/2 inch measurement from wrist to floor when standing straight. According to static measurements, that puts me at + .25 length and + 1 lie angle. Is it worth the additional fuss and cost to make the adjustments? It seems very minimal. Also, since graphite shafts are .25 longer than steel for the irons I'm looking at, would I be better off going with a standard graphite to gain that additional .25 length guesstimated by a static fitting. The irons I'm considering are the Cobra King F6 with Matrix Red Tie 65Q4 shafts. I would certainly appreciate feedback from some of you experienced professionals. 


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How about two cents from an experienced amateur in the mean time?  Static measurements provide a starting point in the same way that a shoe sizes do: by narrowing the range of options available.  To progress further it is necessary to try them on...so to speak.  Also, there is no industry standard for length.  You will find that club lengths vary from brand to brand and model to model.  It would be more helpful, to you, to have specific loft, length, and lie numbers.  My 7 iron, for example, has a loft/lie/length of 33/62/37 1/2.  As for your question concerning graphite versus steel...I would go with whatever clubs I liked best and not worry so much about the quarter inch difference so long as the lie was good.  The longer a club is...the farther away the head moves.  If a club is too long for its lie; shots will tend to pull.  As most amateurs fade/slice; a club that plays a bit upright is not such a bad thing and a distinct improvement over one that plays too flat.  The only way to sort these few things out, as well as flex and flex profile, is thru dynamic testing.  Bon chance!

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Piz, thank you for your reply and input. To make a short story long... This Spring I decided I wanted to get back to playing golf and really invest in it and practice and play as much as possible. Having not played much in the last 20 years and when I did play, my game wasn't like it once was and left me very frustrated. Since I decided to invest in it, I figured a good place to start would be a nice shiny set of clubs, so I did a few Google searches for the best golf club sets and got intrigued when I saw there was such a thing as "game improvement" and "super game improvement" clubs. As I already mentioned, I hadn't been playing golf much over the last 20 years and the one time I did golf last summer left me feeling extremely frustrated and feeling like I needed as much help as I could get. With that being said, I figured "super game improvement clubs must be what I really need and bought a complete set of Cobra Max with regular flex graphite driver, hybrids and irons. Well, I've been playing them all summer and have managed to correct a lot of my swing issues and gain some consistency. The problem I now have is that I feel I've already outgrown them. For example, when I purchased them my swing speed was in the mid 80's to low 90's. I now have a swing speed ranging from 106 to 114, so I'm thinking a stiff shaft would be beneficial. Also, the Cobra Max have a ton of offset and because of that it seems to really screw with me when it comes to aligning the club up to the ball square in relation to my desired flight path and my shot turns into a hook or draw if I don't square it up properly. I've also noticed that if it is properly squared and I give it a full swing it tends to go high and right ( I'm a right handed golfer). With that being said, my assumptions are that a non offset driver will not screw with me trying to square it up and a stiff flex shaft should help with the high right shots on the full swings. I'm hoping that someone can help me confirm my assumptions and give me advice on purchasing a new set of irons. I went to a local golf store yesterday and swung several drivers including Callaway XR, Ping G, and the Cobra F6. Of all the drivers I swung, the Cobra F6 was the longest, most accurate, and felt great, so I bought it and now own one. Now I'm needing to figure out irons and I'm leaning towards the cobra F6 irons, but I'm getting so many mixed opinions between graphite and steel. The local golf shop basically told me that only losers and women use graphite irons. But if that's the case why is it that they make them in men's and available in a stiff flex? I welcome others opinions. I currently have Matrix White Tie regular flex shafts in my irons and like them other than it seems like I'm getting the ball in the air a little too high. My thought is the Red Tie graphite should help with that since it's considered a mid trajectory vs a high trajectory White Tie shaft. Also, as I stated earlier I'm leaning toward a standard graphite for the added 1/4 inch of length for my height. I welcome any thoughts and opinions. Thank you. 


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If you go to Cobra's website you can select any specs you want for any of their clubs.

If you swing the driver that fast I'd think twice about getting 65 gram iron shafts without trying them first.  At least try some light and heavy shafts at the store first (assuming you don't want to go through a fitting) then order a set with the weight you like on the website.

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As I mentioned previously, My current clubs are graphite and they seem fine to me other than too much flex. I swung a Cobra F6 iron in steel yesterday and couldn't really notice much difference from the graphite I currently have. They didn't have the F6 in a graphite stiff flex at the store I went to yesterday. Is there a standard for shaft weight based on swing speed? 


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I have fit 10s of 1000 of amatuer golfers. Short answer go get fitted, custom fit does not have to be 1 penny more.  Many times it is not.   Now making presumptions in your post that can cost you a lot more. There are many things missing in your post that need to be answered, age, athleticism, swing speed, tempo, ball flight

 

 

also at 6"2" don't buy or consider graphite at this point in time for your irons.


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