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Quite bit costlier. How will the networks pay for it? I can only think of 2 ways. 1. More commercials! 2. Charge more for commercials. Which will be hard to do if networks are losing viewership due to excessive commercials. I guess this can be solved by finding a new player better than TW ever was.

Better and more affordable launch monitors can be a double-edged sword, like video cams back when it allowed folks to see their swing for the first time. "My driver swing speed is 42? My attack angle is -8.3? What kind of a loser am I? I'm going fishing."

I think you are taking this thread too seriously.

Most of the longer hitters hit it 150 on Tour. Some have juiced up clubs. They way they hit the ball, the height, the spin, wind affects it a lot. So downwind can really add distance. Out of the rough, who knows. I've flown a green from 200 yds with an 8-iron once. It wasn't my incredible swing speed that did that. It was an incredible downwind flier. They are also on elevated tees frequently hitting downhill. Golf commentators almost never mention this when they are hyping the distances these guys are getting. On the other hand, there are the Cameron Champ types. But not that many.

Anyone's who's played this game for any length of time can likely relate. You have a particularly bad case of whatever it is, but yeah, it can be frustrating to the point of infuriating. I second the opinion that a nice long break is in order. Long enough to where when you return, everything feels uncomfortable. Then concentrate on setup/alignment/grip (you know, the things everybody can get right regardless of ability). Good luck. I know what it's like to have a love/hate relationship with golf. I took up flyfishing as a fallback sport. Much more relaxing, have never broken my fly rods. Golf is a crazy game.

Someone yelled "Send it to the MOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNN!!" on the 6th tee on Saturday at Bay Hill. Have to admit it was kind of funny as it was the only voice heard. Can't remember who's drive it was. Might have been Zach Johnson's, which sounds incongruous but I do remember he belted one up and out there a lot farther than I was expecting, 300+.

Here's what I've learned after 47 years on this planet: Most people are full of s***.

Take no more than 20 putts.

Giving this more thought, I'll say the Tour has been good for golf. But currently that is in question. The prime outlet and connection they have to the fans is via television. And that product is currently in sad shape; greed for $$ has eclipsed everything else in their product for the fans.

Ping makes excellent drivers. I can't stand the way they look. It's mental. I'm sure I could get used to it but there's not real motivation to. If it added 20 yds or decreased dispersion significantly I'd be motivated! Lucky for me, Callaway makes excellent drivers too. I could also easily switch to TM, but right now my Callaway consistently gets better results on launch monitors. Until I see something major change, or I break the thing, I'm good there.

I was responding to the speculative post, I don't know that Jordan specifically tried to change anything. I was speaking more to the general idea that we've seen with some players.

I don't get it. A world-beating game and they always try to "fix" something. Most times it doesn't help anything. There's far more to it than how one swings. At that level.

JT would say It feels less uncomfortable with an $$$$ endorsement contract.

I don't think anyone will disparage them. Why would they?

I don't care as far as the actual style goes. It looks silly to have a hood though, doesn't really make sense.

I used to work there occasionally. Not as an employee - they were a client of ours. I also used to think I wanted to work there. Then I did, then I changed my mind. It's probably a fine place to work for Brandel Chamblee. Not so much glory otherwise, it's a grind and salaries were rather low compared to similar positions in other companies because everyone (golfers, anyways) wanted to work there.

Well, I was thinking older, more realistic kids. Our HS quarterback was excellent, college scholarship, all that. He never thought he was going to be in the NFL nor did any of his peers at other schools that I know of. At least not by that time in his life. I assume most have dreams when they are younger, and they should. You never know. What's funny about golf is that there are 30-year olds dreaming of competing on the PGA Tour. People that were born 10 years behind them have had full junior/college careers dripping with success yet they think that they can watch some YT videos and get fitted for equipment and get out there and play against them. And then sometimes this repeats in their 40s leading up to a Champions Tour career defeating the likes of Langer, Couples, etc. Though generally most people have had the nonsensical delusional dreaming beaten out of them by that point in life.

Single biggest impact was a lesson I got when I was about 20. Like many kids that age that are decent players, my in-to-out move was over-exaggerated. I had a full, flexible turn, then dropped by hands so far inside that I would occasionally struggle with big, high blocks out to the right. My instructor, and rightly so, helped me with staying on plane. Part of that lesson involved a more level turn of the shoulders, versus dropping the right shoulder. Well, I took that and it helped but then I moved, started a job, and for whatever reason just focused on that well beyond when I had "fixed" the issue and it has since turned into tendency to use too much upper body rotation and an OTT move that I struggle with to this day, hitting the occasional vile pullish fade and repugnant toe-ish short iron. The fix for it now feels like an arms swing, but it's not. I took way to much of a good thing way too far. And now I live with the shame.

Yup. I'm sure all the behind-the-scenes riff raff can be let go and just go with what they have in place up there. I think this will be the beginning end of the Golf Channel as we have known it. Things change, media is changing. PGA Tour will have more options for viewership/sponsorship.

Golf is an interesting affliction, er sport, in that it seems to produce an inordinately high number of pipe-dreamers. You just don't see this in other sports. It's interesting to watch though.

His interpretation, like most people's, is so out of bounds it's not even on the same golf course. The 1st Amendment applies to Congress and the establishment of laws restricting speech. It has nothing to do with bulletin board posts or the repercussions of what is said in daily life.

Were Pat Summerall, Mike Tirico, Herbert Warren Wind professional golfers (or golf professionals)? Dan Jenkins? Ron Sirak? Bob Parson, Karsten Solheim? These YouTubers are entertainers, marketers, even journalists in some sense. No different from the traditional media formats we've seen in the past. And it's very difficult. They have to have the talent to attract substantial viewers to earn the numbers mentioned in the first post. The majority of wanna-be's never do. You need far more than an iphone and a dream. Those who give online lessons for $ are golf professionals. And rightly so.

The photographers have been getting more and more pushy with their positioning. I noticed this on TV last night, when they were laying down in front of Hughes as he hit his wedge to 18 after taking a drop. That seems a bit much. Not so much from a danger perspective - who cares about these guys - but from a distraction perspective at a very critical moment during the match. I'd have cleared all of those SOBs out of there.

You hate left handers? 😄 Also, Fleetwoods error on 18 wasn't mental. He knew not to do that. He saw the water, probably had noticed it the 3 or 4 days prior. If not, I'm sure his caddie pointed it out at some point during the week. He knows how to not hit a blocked cut. His error was physical. It happens to the best, this was just a horrific time. His play leading up to that shot was world-class. He'll be fine.

It's a horrible place IMO. I've played it twice. It's not fun. It's surrounded by condos and houses, the only penalty there is water (and it's everywhere, obviously). Penal for the sake of being penal, as Groucho said. The top guys don't have to play, and need to take a break during the month and the run up to the TPC and then the majors. This course is a perfect one to skip. The place is depressing to even the best golfers in the world. The last 4 holes do, however, make for a great viewing experience.