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Since Vokey has just come out with the 64 degree and Roger Cleveland has had a 64 degree for a while with Callaway I was just wondering if there was anyone out there who had some success putting a 64 degree wedge in their bag?

I have been looking around the net for a while and there hasn't been too much feedback from the mere mortals having a try with this degree club.
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580 XD 9.5* harrison striper Ti S
// v-steel 15* S//rescue 17* S
710 AP 2 3 ir + 755 4- 9 S//vokey 200 48.06 / 54.14
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I think you should give the new golf talk podcast a listen for Bobs comments on us mortals with the 60, 62 and 64 degree wedges.

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i know that i am adding it. It is the loft that Phil used to hit his backwards shots. It is called a "flop" wedge i think. it is also relatively easy to hit. You just have to make sure u are under the ball

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FWY WOOD: 980F 15 EI-70 X Stiff
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I considered it because with the set-up I am going to taking the woods out of my bag since I cant hit them anyway I end up with 13 clubs. But I just dont see the necessity, I carry a 60* and I dont run into many places if any where I cant pull off the shot I need with it. I suppose people who just carry a 56 say the same about a 60 though.

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I know Dave Pelz is a big believer in the higher lofted wedges such as the 64 for even average players. His reasoning is that it's yet another short distance that you'll be able to take a full swing and second, because of the firmness of greens these days, a higher lofted wedge will help hold those greens and get the ball closer. With the new groove rules coming, there are those that believe higher lofts can help counter the less 'groovy' grooves. We'll see...

Personally, I carried a 60 for years and then a couple years ago I lost my 60 and got a new 58 and have found I prefer the less loft of the 58 - it's just easier to hit accurate (and is more versatile). Because of that, I don't think I would even consider a wedge with more loft of 60. I just don't think it would benefit me. I might consider it if I was allowed to carry 16-17 clubs instead of 14.

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The only thing I can do with a 64 I can't do as well with a 60 is to hit a fixed shorter distance without having to think about how full my swing is. Not enough for me to kick something else out of the bag.
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I carry one because I have room for it. Adding clubs at the top of the set will do me no good. I'm just not accurate enough from 200+ yards to need anything less than a 20 yard gap above my 4 hybrid.

I've used mine mainly for two shots.

1) The full 55-70 yard shot that comes up on occasion. And I'm sick of being told to layup short of those distances and drop the 64* My course doesn't allow for that on a couple of holes.

2) Chipping around the green. I use it as my short game club inside 30 or so yards. I can make it go low and run, believe it or not. And of course a high shot is no problem either. I never ever have to worry about the shot running out too far.
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I just switched to a 5 wedge setup, adding the 64* cleveland dsg/cg12.
I've always liked the feel of the cleveland wedge better than the Vokeys, although I haven't tried their 64*.

I did the thing where I made a list of all my clubs and put a tally next to them after every shot. I hit my 64 about twice as much as my 3 and 5 woods combined, so I dropped them both four a 4 wood and kept the 5 wedges.
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I got a lot of hate mail here for raving about my 64° a while back. But it is money in the bank . You can take a positive swing through the ball and get a lot of height and spin, where with less lofted clubs you have to open the face, hit off the toe, etc. to get the same result.

Scoring is all in what you do from 60 yards in. An extra lofted wedge is worth more than any other club I could put back in the bag.

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For me? a waste.

had a 64 clev in the bag for about half the seasons, the only shot i liked with it was leaving the face square and just kinda chipping with it like a sand wedge. any one can open the face of a 60 up just as simple. Sure the full shot thing from like 70 yards was kinda cool, but honestly, the half shots with wedges are my favorite shots, and that kinda let me down.. so i am back to the 53-60 set up

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Never for me i would just open up my 58*. I guess you could use it but it wouldnt do much good. Look at Phil he hasnt done much since adding the 64*

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SupPar, how have you found your rhthym with the club? The videos with Mickelson on Callaway TV show the club travelling under ball if it is used too quickly or if your weight isn't distributed correctly.
KGC- edge bag
580 XD 9.5* harrison striper Ti S
// v-steel 15* S//rescue 17* S
710 AP 2 3 ir + 755 4- 9 S//vokey 200 48.06 / 54.14
sm
60.08// studio design 1 4*
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I love my 64* callaway. It's my go-to club for touch shots that require a ton of spin from short distances. I have a specialty shot where I open the face flat and whif the club under the ball, letting the grooves grab it while the club is hitting the ball with the face almost parallel to the ground. It's too much loft for a flop so the grooves grab the ball and throw it forward low with a TON of spin. I've gotten 20 foot chips to spin back 4 feet with it.

My only beef with the 64* is that I have to take my 3 iron or 3 wood out of the bag to play it. I'm thinking of changing to a 54, 58, 62 set up to get the best of both worlds.

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SupPar, how have you found your rhthym with the club? The videos with Mickelson on Callaway TV show the club travelling under ball if it is used too quickly or if your weight isn't distributed correctly.

I'm sorry I know this question wasn't directed at me but I'd like to field it if I may.

I can imagine the club face sliding under the ball IF you are a slider and taking a shallow divot. I'm not a slider though, probably why my handicap is so high. But for me, I swear, I setup for this club exactly like a pitching wedge and hit down hard on the ball on full shots. Mine has 9* of bounce so I don't have to worry so much about the fat shot. The real discipline comes when you don't let your brain trick you by saying "this is a 67 yard shot, you need to ease up". I find if I hit it as hard as an 8 or 9 iron that the club will do the work for me. But if I try to add an extra smooth rhythm to the shot and manipulate the club, yeah that shot comes off poorly.
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Thanks Stacy_E that's exactly what I wanted to know!
KGC- edge bag
580 XD 9.5* harrison striper Ti S
// v-steel 15* S//rescue 17* S
710 AP 2 3 ir + 755 4- 9 S//vokey 200 48.06 / 54.14
sm
60.08// studio design 1 4*
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