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My buddy and I played 9 together, our first time playing together.. He was joking around, ya know saying he was gunna win.. but anyways we hit our tee shots, mine personally sucked for the day, consistently hooking and coming up short. His tee shots were so good and it started to make me wonder.. Well my short game was awsome! I was 2-putting almost every hole except 1 of them. His short game was off, almost consistently 3 & 4-putting. We ended up 1 apart at the end of the day. Its amazing how he had perfect tee shots and yet because his putting was off and mine was on, we were still close in the end.

In my Tour Bag:


Taylormade RBZ Driver, 3w, 3h
Cobra Amp Cell Irons 4i-pw
Vokey Wedges, 52,56,60

Scotty Cameron Putter


"I'd shoot an eagle anyday over a regular ol' birdie"

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I beat my dad constantly and he rarely misses a fairway and I rarely hit one. My short game is leaps and bounds better than what I do off the tee. if you can chip and putt you can shoot 70's and be horrid off the tee. I've done it.

fired a 78 one day hitting 5 iron off the tee because I couldn't keep the longer clubs in play
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Statisically, you'll take about 80% of your shots within 120 yards of the hole. You'll hit your driver 14 times max. The person with the best short game wins every time IME.

Weapons of choice:
Irons/wedges: Titleist Tour Grind
Driver:Titleist 909D2
3 Wood: Tour Edge Exotic
Putter: Odyssey White Hot

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Statisically, you'll take about 80% of your shots within 120 yards of the hole. You'll hit your driver 14 times max. The person with the best short game wins every time IME.

This is true up to a point, almost always for the weekend warriors. At the higher end of playing ability its almost always the ability to drive the ball well that produces the biggest performance variance. Look no further than Tiger Woods vs. Henrik Stenson last weekend. Tiger has a superior short game, but couldn't keep the ball in the fairway.

My own personal stuggles have been with the driver as well. My short game is still better than most, but in recent years I have been getting killed by players of much less ability because I take 8-10 penalty strokes per round. When you generate club head speed of 115+ and your swing gets off plane, you can find places on the golf course (and off) that nobody has ever seen before. David Duval is another example, he is dead last in driving accuracy. Its his single biggest demon on the golf course.
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A stroke is a stroke. It doesn't matter where you take it......

In David's bag....

Driver: Titleist 910 D-3;  9.5* Diamana Kai'li
3-Wood: Titleist 910F;  15* Diamana Kai'li
Hybrids: Titleist 910H 19* and 21* Diamana Kai'li
Irons: Titleist 695cb 5-Pw

Wedges: Scratch 51-11 TNC grind, Vokey SM-5's;  56-14 F grind and 60-11 K grind
Putter: Scotty Cameron Kombi S
Ball: ProV1

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This is so true. Short game can really make your scorecard shine

Burner 10.5 *
Burner 15*
Rescue 19*
Voit V5 Hybrid 24*
MX-25 5-PW CG14 52*,56*,60* Ignite 002

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Crazy game....earlier this year I had a round where I hit only 5 greens and shot 76....then had a round where I hit 13 and shot an 81...

Is it any wonder that golf pros keep trying to reinfoce the fact that you need to spend 60+ percent of your practice time on the short game?

"Getting paired with you is the equivalent to a two-stroke penalty to your playing competitors"  -- Sean O'Hair to Rory Sabbatini (Zurich Classic, 2011)

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As they say, "Drive for show, putt for dough!" There is truth to that...I too believe the short game will most always win...

In the Bag
Driver: Taylormade R7 limited
Fairway woods: X fairway 3 wood
Hybrids: G15 20 degree
Irons: G10 4-PW & SW

Putter: White Hot XG #1

Ball: NXT tour

The only thing a golfer needs is more daylight-Ben Hogan

 

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Statisically, you'll take about 80% of your shots within 120 yards of the hole. You'll hit your driver 14 times max. The person with the best short game wins every time IME.

I think this analysis depends on the difficulty of the course one is playing. There are more than a few courses I play, where a tee shot off the fairway is out of bounds or lost rather than just on an adjacent fairway. If you are constantly shooting 3 off the tee, you lose no matter how good your short game is.

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