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I ordered a set of Mizuno MX 200s, I was fitted for these clubs and ordered the Dynalite XP S300 stiff (high launch shaft).

The launch angle on 3 - 7 is perfect, but I am hitting planes out of the sky with the 8, 9 and PW. The ball just hangs in the air forever. I tried playing the ball a little further back in my stance and that didn't help. I think my SS was 86 mph when I was fitted (keep in mind that I was fitted with a 6 iron only).

So long story short. What do I do? Should I reshaft just the 8, 9, and PW with a low launch shaft (Dynamic gold). Do you think this will bring the ball flight down. If not, I am going to have to sell these high irons and replace them with MP 52s.

ANy suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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How do you know your ball flight is too high? Does it show a noticeable lack of distance out of your 8-PW?

It's not bad to hit your 8-PW really high. I do. It's actually a really good thing. You'll get the ball to sit quickly.

Most high handicappers actually hit the ball too low.

Driver Ping G10 10.5*
Hybrids Ping G5 (3) 19* Bridgestone J36 (4) 22*
Irons Mizuno MP-57 5-PW
Wedges Srixon WG-504 52.08 Bridgestone WC Copper 56.13
Putter 33" Scotty Cameron Studio Select #2

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How do you know your ball flight is too high? Does it show a noticeable lack of distance out of your 8-PW?

I have lost 20 yards easy, and if it's windy the ball will be all over the place. You can just see the ball launch straight up. I was playing Taylormade Firesoles from 2001 before I switched to the Mizunos, I hit my PW around 125 - 130 yards and I know what the ball flight was like. This isn't anywhere close. I agree that high isn't necessarily bad, but this is TO high. I was paired with someone who commented "I think that's the highest I've ever seen anyone hit a PW".

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Getting the Mp-52 sounds like it better solution than trying to figure it out. The mx 200 and the mp 52 makes for a great combo set. Before I bought the clubs I have no I to had the problem of hitting the short irons too high. It was completly solved once I got better players irons.
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Getting the Mp-52 sounds like it better solution than trying to figure it out. The mx 200 and the mp 52 makes for a great combo set. Before I bought the clubs I have no I to had the problem of hitting the short irons too high. It was completly solved once I got better players irons.

Yeah, I think that's the way to go as well. However I now need to get involved with trying to sell 4 clubs on E-Bay. Do you think having high launch shafts in the 200s 3 - 6 , and low launch shafts in the 7 - PW 52s will present any kind of a problem?

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You sure you're making a correct swing with the short irons? Only reason I ask is I get kinda "flippy" with my sand wedge which will cause it to sky rocket and come up well short of my intentions.
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You sure you're making a correct swing with the short irons? Only reason I ask is I get kinda "flippy" with my sand wedge which will cause it to sky rocket and come up well short of my intentions.

Having only played 2 rounds with the new clubs, I will be spending a lot more time at the range before I make any final decisions. However, I'm pretty sure I'm hitting down on the ball and not flipping. It's a good point though, and I will check it again.

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I have lost 20 yards easy, and if it's windy the ball will be all over the place. You can just see the ball launch straight up. I was playing Taylormade Firesoles from 2001 before I switched to the Mizunos, I hit my PW around 125 - 130 yards and I know what the ball flight was like. This isn't anywhere close. I agree that high isn't necessarily bad, but this is TO high. I was paired with someone who commented "I think that's the highest I've ever seen anyone hit a PW".

I have the same problem as well. I am losing at least 10 yards per club with my all my clubs, actually, because of height. But it's my swing. Before you go get new clubs make sure it's not your swing, man. I just got a lesson yesterday, and it was something I'm doing with my hands. I was getting the club head out in front of my hands at contact, and that was causing me to ADD LOFT to the club, resulting in the height, and making the distance less (turning a 7 iron into an 8, an 8 into a 9, 9 into a PW, etc. etc.)

Driver Ping G10 10.5*
Hybrids Ping G5 (3) 19* Bridgestone J36 (4) 22*
Irons Mizuno MP-57 5-PW
Wedges Srixon WG-504 52.08 Bridgestone WC Copper 56.13
Putter 33" Scotty Cameron Studio Select #2

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Something you could do that would help is to get them bent. You could take 2 degrees off and see what the flight is like. I have the irons below bent and I really got my distance back with my irons. I felt like I was just hitting my irons too high. It really made a difference and was alot cheaper than getting new irons. It really made me like my irons alot more.

A heavier shaft would help too. You are going to spend alot of money to replace the 7-P and not get that much for the ones you have on ebay.

I would do everything I could before I made a change.

Brian

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  • 1 year later...

I went from MP 57's with Project X 6.0 to MX 200's with DG XP S300 and my handi went from 14+ to 11+ in 10 rounds.  Lose the ego and make it more fun!!  YES the ball flight is very high (no ballooning though!!) but I don't notice a loss in distance at all.  In fact, the XP's are lighter by 10 grams or so and this allows for a little extra distance despite the high trajectory.  I do, however, like the earlier suggestion about bending the whole set a degree or two just to bring each club down a touch.  My PW is a moon ball at 130-135 yards and I think I am replacing the MX200 GW with a true wedge with wedge flex.

It's never ending..............

907 D2 Tour with Fujikura Rombax 7Z08
909 D3 with stock Aldila Voodoo
909 19*with Fujikura Speeder 904HB
909 24* with Fujikura Speeder 904HB
MX 200's (5-GW) with DG XP's MP-10 54* and 58* Kombi B330-S or TP Red's (while they last)

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I really doubt many people hit the ball too high.  I hit the ball really, really high, sky high.  Many great players hit it as high, or even higher than me.  Rickie Fowler, for example, hits it higher than I do, and guess what?  He's better than me.  You're trying to get the ball to land flat and stop, even with long irons.  Most amateurs can't stop a long iron on the green.  What you think of as losing distance may just be right.  You aren't trying to hit your short irons a long way anyway, 130 yards with the PW is plenty long, even less.

I always tell people that their swings are often so timing based, that they can't rely on much.  I know I am not good enough to gauge whether a club is holding me back, or if I'm making the mistake.  When I can't hit a club, I film my swing.  99% of the time, my swing has changed.  This is mostly mental, but it can also be a swingweight thing that causes me to change.  Most of the time, it's me.  My pro helps me sort it out.  Odds are, if your handicap is north of 10, you aren't consistent enough to really judge what it is, you or the club.  Even a 5 handicap isn't quite good enough to worry.  The difference between two irons especially such short ones, is small.  Make sure the club fits you, yes, but understand that it's more likely something different you're doing.

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You sure you're making a correct swing with the short irons? Only reason I ask is I get kinda "flippy" with my sand wedge which will cause it to sky rocket and come up well short of my intentions.

Having only played 2 rounds with the new clubs, I will be spending a lot more time at the range before I make any final decisions. However, I'm pretty sure I'm hitting down on the ball and not flipping. It's a good point though, and I will check it again.

What shaft did you have in your previous set of irons.  And, what were the lofts of the previous set?  Maybe the PW in the previous set was stronger than the mizzy's?

Deryck Griffith

Titleist 910 D3: 9.5deg GD Tour AD DI7x | Nike Dymo 3W: 15deg, UST S-flex | Mizuno MP CLK Hybrid: 20deg, Project X Tour Issue 6.5, HC1 Shaft | Mizuno MP-57 4-PW, DG X100 Shaft, 1deg upright | Cleveland CG15 Wedges: 52, 56, 60deg | Scotty Cameron California Del Mar | TaylorMade Penta, TP Black LDP, Nike 20XI-X

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I'd agree that before you dump a ton of money...go have a pro look at you, including some video. It'll be cheaper in the long-run, plus you might get better. Then, you'll know for sure what the real issue is.

Current Gear Setup: Driver: TM R9 460, 9.5, Stiff - 3W: TM R9, 15, stiff - Hybrid: Adams Idea Pro Black, 18, stiff - Irons: Callaway X Forged 09, 3-PW, PX 5.5 - SW: Callaway X Series Jaws, 54.14 - LW: Callaway X Series Jaws, 60.12 - Putter: PING Redwood Anser, 33in.

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Just curious what the difference (if any) is in swing weight between your new clubs and your old clubs. I also would suspect your swing, especially if the new clubs are lighter than what you're used to it could cause you to release a little too early. That will definitely add loft and cause you to sky the ball. It might just be a matter of practicing with the new clubs until you get our swing dialed in.

In the Bag:
Driver: Cleveland Launcher Ultralight XL 270

FW: Taylor Made 300 17 degree 
3-PW: Mizuno MX-23

AW: Mizuno TP-T11 52/07 (Bent to 50)
SW: Mizuno TP-T11 56/10

LW: Mizuno TP-T11 60/05

Putter: Original Ping Zing

Ball: Wilson Staff FG Tour

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