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There are few things that I can think of: Grip, stance, and the club face angle at address.

I still don't know some definitive answers to this question though. Thanks for the help!

Happy New Year.

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The typical formula is line up you feet where you want the ball to start, then line up the face where you want the ball to end up (adjust your grip accordingly). Some folks move the ball a little closer to themselves (Tiger has a great tip on this on his web-site, the video title is something about a clinic).

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The typical formula is line up you feet where you want the ball to start, then line up the face where you want the ball to end up (adjust your grip accordingly).

That doesn't work. The ball doesn't start along your foot line. That's old and/or bad information. We have another thread on the ball's initial trajectory somewhere. It has the word "definitive" in the title, I believe.

As to the original question, they hit a push-fade. Look at Lee Trevino. Lined up WAY left, pushed the ball but still left of the target (obviously) but right of his foot line, and faded it to the target. In Stack and Tilt, you're still hitting the ball on the "back side" of the circle, but the clubface is open relative to your foot line and the swing path.

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misty_mountainhop Great Member

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Check out comments by "drifterland" in :

http://thesandtrap.com/forum/threads...t-a-power-fade

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DBeane Well Established Member

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That doesn't work. The ball doesn't start along your foot line. That's old and/or bad information. We have another thread on the ball's initial trajectory somewhere. It has the word "definitive" in the title, I believe.

Before I replied with "It works for me", I went to the range and checked. I do line up my feet further left that where I want it to start. So, back to the question...everything I said before...just line up a little further left.

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Maintain an inside-out swing pattern.
Then: 1)weak grip, 2)ball slightly back in stance, 3)delayed release. Aiming left doesn't produce the fade, it merely compensates for where you expect the ball to go.

This may produce a mild straight push, a slight fade, a totally straight ball, a minimal draw. What it really does is prevent a hook.
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Maintain an inside-out swing pattern.

Open stance and delayed release always works for me. I think everybody does it slightly differently so it is certainly worth spending time at the range to see which you can pull off - especially under pressure!

You should always try alternating your shots though when practising. 1 draw, 1 straight(ish), 1 fade (the book Every Shot Must Have A Purpose has some good routines in)

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The typical formula is line up you feet where you want the ball to start, then line up the face where you want the ball to end up (adjust your grip accordingly). Some folks move the ball a little closer to themselves (Tiger has a great tip on this on his web-site, the video title is something about a clinic).

What I've done is something similar. You find the target line on which you want the ball to start, then set the club face halfway to your intended target. And swing along your body line. You don't change your swing for it. You're just changing the your aim point and your club face, the swing should be the same.

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I just aim a little left, open the face a tiny bit and make a normal aggressive swing but with "quiet hands" through the hitting zone. Results in a power fade everytime...

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Feet lined up 6º left
Clubface lined up 2º left
Swinging inside-to-outside by 2º

Result: Clubface will launch the ball at 2º left. The 4º (6-2) swingpath will create sidespin, causing it to spin from left to right.

The angles may not be correct, and will vary depending on the amount of curve, but that is the general idea.
Of course, setting up for a fade and hitting one is two very different things. It's difficult to change the angle and maintain hitting a normal swing. We often do things to compensate. Sometimes it works, sometimes not.

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