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Shot an 86 [previous low of 89] (42-44) yesterday. And it felt so damn good. I had one bad hole in which I was chipping and I hit the ball with the hozzle of my 60 degree into the sand, and an 8 ensues on a par 4.

Here's my stats for the round:

FIR: 7/14

GIR: 7/18

Putts: 2.0 (One three putt and one 1 putt)

My FIRs... 3 of them were off the fairway by 1 yard or less

GIRs... most are because of an errant tee shot for bad position or a long par 5 (I'm not a long hitter by any means)

Putts... well I can't be upset with 2.0 putts per green, but I can't really be happy with it either.

In your opinions, what should I work on?

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Single digit handicap

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Nice work!

If your GIR was 7/18, then work on your short game...25 yards and in.

If you are around the green in 2, then a chip and a putt, and you have a par my friend.

Keep up the good work.

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Hey! I also had a new low round today...82! I hit 12/18 GIR's. If my putter was hot, My score would have been much lower haha! I just wanna break 80 so baddd! Congrats man!

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Originally Posted by Chrepper

Nice work!

If your GIR was 7/18, then work on your short game...25 yards and in.

If you are around the green in 2, then a chip and a putt, and you have a par my friend.

Keep up the good work.



The problem is that I'm not the longest hitter and I'm not very comfortable with my woods yet (I'm working on them). So my second shot is usually after a 190 yard 4 iron shot, meaning it's a 7 iron in. I'm pretty good with backspin on 9i and below, but the 8 and 7 roll a bit, so sometimes it's a matter of rolling off the back. But if I'm within 100-130 it's open season on the pin usually landing 10 feet from the pin.



Originally Posted by domc36

Hey! I also had a new low round today...82! I hit 12/18 GIR's. If my putter was hot, My score would have been much lower haha! I just wanna break 80 so baddd! Congrats man!


Thanks man, it feels good when it starts to come together. I went to the city par 3 course with my buddy later that day for a quick 9 and to my amazement I still was hitting them good, I even chipped in twice for birdie throughout 9 holes haha

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Single digit handicap

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Originally Posted by Mattplusness

Shot an 86 [previous low of 89] (42-44) yesterday. And it felt so damn good. I had one bad hole in which I was chipping and I hit the ball with the hozzle of my 60 degree into the sand, and an 8 ensues on a par 4.

Here's my stats for the round:

FIR: 7/14

GIR: 7/18

Putts: 2.0 (One three putt and one 1 putt)

My FIRs... 3 of them were off the fairway by 1 yard or less

GIRs... most are because of an errant tee shot for bad position or a long par 5 (I'm not a long hitter by any means)

Putts... well I can't be upset with 2.0 putts per green, but I can't really be happy with it either.

In your opinions, what should I work on?

My driving isn't my best part of the game, kinda shortish (around 250), but mostly in the FW, 200 yds in I am lethal with the irons and if I miss a green mostly a chip-putt will save my par ........

Well if you are not a long hitter you should put your first shot further from the tee ...... I asume you now tee off with a 3W or similar, so add a driver ....... if you can handle a 3W so good ..... I am about sure you will benefit from taking mid to short irons to the green ,,,,, if you would be using a driver off the tee.

GIR 7/18 isn't too bad, but if you are on the putting surface and 20 yards from the hole ....... ????

Chipping with a 60* ...... okay your choice, but it leave so little room for error ...... if it is not hard enough, you are a long way from the hole bc it checks too much and if you skull it is goes way beyond the hole. Further most 60* wedges have a rounded front edge, which make it hard to hit it 100% square all time.

If you prefer a lofted club for chipping (I don't) ...... use a 9 iron instead, visit the practice area with about 25 balls instead of playing 18 holes (yes that long) .... dead wrists, ball first, ground second, and you will soon learn to control the 9 iron chipping ....... you will be amazed !

It helps if you are allowed to draw circles around the hole of 3 and 6 ft using chalk or chalk spray and focus on getting the ball within these circles........ play a game dropping 10 balls a different spots around the practice green, chip 1 ball from every location, 3 points for in the hole, 2 points for the inner circle, 1 point for the outer circle ...... it sounds silly but it will bring your score down for sure !

(Personally I prefer the 7 iron for these kind of chips - 20 yds in - as you can hit the chips with the 7i about as strong as you would do if you had to putt the same distance ...... I can chip it very close or even in at times ........ UP & DOWN will save lots of pars and brings you putting down to 28-30).

If you can get lots of chips within 4-6 ft. from the hole, you will start breaking 80 with ease.

Good Luck !


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Originally Posted by Mattplusness

The problem is that I'm not the longest hitter and I'm not very comfortable with my woods yet (I'm working on them). So my second shot is usually after a 190 yard 4 iron shot, meaning it's a 7 iron in. I'm pretty good with backspin on 9i and below, but the 8 and 7 roll a bit, so sometimes it's a matter of rolling off the back. But if I'm within 100-130 it's open season on the pin usually landing 10 feet from the pin.


Well you answered your own question then

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Originally Posted by Gerald

My driving isn't my best part of the game, kinda shortish (around 250), but mostly in the FW, 200 yds in I am lethal with the irons and if I miss a green mostly a chip-putt will save my par ........

Well if you are not a long hitter you should put your first shot further from the tee ...... I asume you now tee off with a 3W or similar, so add a driver ....... if you can handle a 3W so good ..... I am about sure you will benefit from taking mid to short irons to the green ,,,,, if you would be using a driver off the tee.

GIR 7/18 isn't too bad, but if you are on the putting surface and 20 yards from the hole ....... ????

Chipping with a 60* ...... okay your choice, but it leave so little room for error ...... if it is not hard enough, you are a long way from the hole bc it checks too much and if you skull it is goes way beyond the hole. Further most 60* wedges have a rounded front edge, which make it hard to hit it 100% square all time.

If you prefer a lofted club for chipping (I don't) ...... use a 9 iron instead, visit the practice area with about 25 balls instead of playing 18 holes (yes that long) .... dead wrists, ball first, ground second, and you will soon learn to control the 9 iron chipping ....... you will be amazed !

It helps if you are allowed to draw circles around the hole of 3 and 6 ft using chalk or chalk spray and focus on getting the ball within these circles........ play a game dropping 10 balls a different spots around the practice green, chip 1 ball from every location, 3 points for in the hole, 2 points for the inner circle, 1 point for the outer circle ...... it sounds silly but it will bring your score down for sure !

(Personally I prefer the 7 iron for these kind of chips - 20 yds in - as you can hit the chips with the 7i about as strong as you would do if you had to putt the same distance ...... I can chip it very close or even in at times ........ UP & DOWN will save lots of pars and brings you putting down to 28-30).

If you can get lots of chips within 4-6 ft. from the hole, you will start breaking 80 with ease.

Good Luck !


I would say the majority of the holes I tee of on are with a 4I. I am very comfortable with it and feel that I can put it wherever I want. The woods are new (2 weeks old) but I am hitting them decently. If there is any trouble on the hole I won't use them (even on a long par 5). I do need to get more comfortable with them, but I also need a driver :P

My 60* that day was unstoppable. It was almost always 1 putt away, but having said that - it's when it was usable. I also use my 52* wedge for chipping when I want the long runners, but it has such a big head I need a decent lie.

Thanks for the drill tips too. I just got a dog who likes to fetch and he will fetch golf balls for me, so I'm going to be hitting in the back yard more often :P

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Single digit handicap

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Originally Posted by Mattplusness

I would say the majority of the holes I tee of on are with a 4I. I am very comfortable with it and feel that I can put it wherever I want. The woods are new (2 weeks old) but I am hitting them decently. If there is any trouble on the hole I won't use them (even on a long par 5). I do need to get more comfortable with them, but I also need a driver :P

My 60* that day was unstoppable. It was almost always 1 putt away, but having said that - it's when it was usable. I also use my 52* wedge for chipping when I want the long runners, but it has such a big head I need a decent lie.

Thanks for the drill tips too. I just got a dog who likes to fetch and he will fetch golf balls for me, so I'm going to be hitting in the back yard more often :P

Hmmmm you said you made 36 putts ...... doesn't sound like that here above......, so what did you do at the 11/18 missed GIR's

Unless you play at a relatively short course, you will need to go for a GIR with yet another 4i, which makes your chances for GIR less than average and when your 4i isn't working the way it should do, it is just simply impossible to reach many GIR's

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Originally Posted by Gerald

Hmmmm you said you made 36 putts ...... doesn't sound like that here above......, so what did you do at the 11/18 missed GIR's

Unless you play at a relatively short course, you will need to go for a GIR with yet another 4i, which makes your chances for GIR less than average and when your 4i isn't working the way it should do, it is just simply impossible to reach many GIR's


I can't really speak generally, but if I had to I would say it is because of a missed fairway for a bad lie, a mis-hit, or a long/hard par 4. Or a combination of any of the sorts. Like I said the majority of my tee-offs were a 4I, leaving the longer second shot for less accuracy. I can say that I do remember 2 being missed by a few feet.

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Congrats man. Golf gets even more frustrating, I mean fun, once you're able to break 80!

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Originally Posted by CG031

Congrats man. Golf gets even more frustrating, I mean fun, once you're able to break 80!



Truly inspirational words.

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Congratulations on the low round. Like others have said, work on your short game and putting. If you can get up and down from anywhere around the green, it takes pressure off not being the longest hitter.

Good luck!

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Congrats on your new low round, I finally broke 80, about 2 weeks ago with a 78. Ive been trying to break 80 for about 3 years now and finally did it.

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Congrats on your (latest) low round.

That being said, it seems a little unclear to what you've written.  You stated that you 2 putted almost every hole, yet you chipped very well to within 1 putt distance on many holes.  So, either you missed many close putts or you didn't chip up as close as you could've because a 20-footer can be 1-putt distance, just highly unlikely convertible.  Regardless, looking at your overall score, if you take out the 8 (on the par 4), then you played the other 17 holes +10 (assuming the course you played is a par-72).  If your handicap index is accurate (@17), then going +10 for 17 holes is indeed a great score.

As far as what you should work on, IMO, ballstriking.  And by that, I define ballstriking as contact, distance and direction.  Suffice to say, good ballstrikers encompass all three elements in their shots, not just 2 or 1 of the elements.  What good is solid contact and good distance if the ball lands 25 yards left of where you were aiming?  Also, while having a deft short game can prevent a round from getting out of hand, it's no substitute for mediocre ballstriking.  Sure, it's great to miss the green, chip up and 1-putt for par.  But, IMO, it's better to hit the GIR and have a legitimate chance at birdie.  Based on the this, I would suggest to start with working on your long game >100 yards (ballstriking).  You've stated that you just got some woods, so continue to work on those so you can start using them in the tee box in place of your 4i.  Obviously, getting a longer (and more accurate) tee shot would be beneficial because it will leave you a shorter approach shot.

However, your approach shots seem to be a concern because you stated that you're unable to hold the greens (or getting a lot of rollout) with any club longer than a 9i.  I recently played a course where the greens were very firm and ran @ 12 on the stimp meter.  The greens were so firm that it was difficult to locate the pitch marks of where our approach/tee shots landed.  Nonetheless, I had no problem holding the greens even when I used a 3h from >210 yards.  The only time I failed to hold any green was when I "thinned" a shot.  On those shots, I didn't generate the normal backspin of a clean, proper strike, so when the ball hit the green, it just kept rolling and rolling.  So, if you're unable to hold the greens using a mid to short iron, then something is amiss.  Again, IMO, the "solution" is to improve ballstriking.

Also, a relevent consideration--albeit minor in relation to ballstriking, is the ball you're currently playing.  Most modern balls generate sufficient backspin to hold most greens (when properly struck) even if you use a long iron on your approach.  However, some do this better than others, so again, small detail, but it could make a difference.

Overall, congrats on the new low score and I look forward to hearing about your next, newest low score.

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