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I have a theory as to what is going on here but would like to hear what you guys think and also any tips for the range you may have. ( please exude any spelling errors I'm on my cell phone at work). So I had a dymo 2 str8 fit regular shaft 10.5 loft. ( anniversary present) my driver swing speed is 106-111 but I learned how to hit it with ease. My irons have always been deadly. Extremely accurate and I bomb them. 140-143 PW and 6/9 yards on each iron up. Well I had some extra money and wanted to be fitted for a new driver. It's was Nike vr pro 9.5 stiff. So went from 10.5-9.5 regular to stiff and square to round head. My first round with it was ugly. 100-150 yard snap hooks left right off the tee. After 3 rounds and a range session I am bombing this thing down the heart but now my irons are gone. 20-30 yard pushes right and even some shanks right and some slices( i hit a natural draw). This is totally outrageous and killing me. Even my 60 and 56 and therey money clubs. Now my theory is trying to straighten out the nasty hook with the new driver it's causing me to be less Agressive with my hands causing in open face I already know I come a little inside hence the natural draw but I feel I'm taking my same iron swing as before. What do you think and do you have any drills I can use at the range today? Ive come to know that you can pretty much spray your drives all over the place as long as your irons are great you can shoot 70s low 80s but when your irons are all over the place it doesnt matter if every drives down the middle your scores going to suffer Got a tournament Monday thank you for any help

I'm going to give you a little advice. There's a force in the universe that makes things happen. And all you have to do is get in touch with it, stop thinking, let things happen, and be the ball.
Whats in my Walter Hagen stand bag.

Driver: VR Pro 9.5 Stiff

5 wood:SQ Stiff

3 Iron Hybrid:SQ Stiff Aldila Proto Vs 95-S

4-PW:VR Split Cavity Irons

SW:VR Black Satin 56

60:  CG 12

Ball:

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I'm having the exact same problem. I just picked up an R11 and after spending so much range time with it I have not only lost any draw to my irons but I am fading, slicing & shanking. Today I found a little help with a stronger grip on my irons (woods are always neutral) but ball flight was a gentle fade at best. Not only have I lost my draw but I've lost my confidence as well.

David

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I knew there had to be someone else out there that's went through the same problem I was hoping to find a drill or something someone has used to fix it. I played 18 today and had zero confidence after hitting about 50 balls all irons on the range. Hit the first 5 SW shots great then as soon as I thought I had it boom going right. I started taking L to L swings with my feet together working on turning my hands over. Hit roughly 50% of em pushed out to the right worse with my longer irons. I said at the first tee this is going to be a rough round. Only to my surprise my first to last iron shot on the course was dead where I aimed with the exception of a 193 yard par 3 I pushed a 5 iron about 10-15 yards right. My problem today was I sliced every drive except 2. I was 2/14 fairways hit. I guess it's back to the range tomorrow. Now it's driver again

I'm going to give you a little advice. There's a force in the universe that makes things happen. And all you have to do is get in touch with it, stop thinking, let things happen, and be the ball.
Whats in my Walter Hagen stand bag.

Driver: VR Pro 9.5 Stiff

5 wood:SQ Stiff

3 Iron Hybrid:SQ Stiff Aldila Proto Vs 95-S

4-PW:VR Split Cavity Irons

SW:VR Black Satin 56

60:  CG 12

Ball:

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Today's range session was much better. Still a small fade but at least no slices or shanks! What I focused on besides the usual: 1.shortened my back swing 2.a unified one piece takeaway including holding the setup/impact angle (shaft lean) throughout the takeaway. 3.club release as if I were throwing the club head at the target.

I'm still not satisfied but it was the first day in several with zero shanks.

I also discussed the problem with my instructor and we bounced around the ideas of training aids so I ended up getting a Medicus 5 iron. Hopefully it will help get my swing back on track.

David

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