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Hi all.

Well, looking at new irons, and I am looking at the Ping G20 irons now.

I do like it, I do.

But, will a fitted to me Ping, be even "better" than the standard I have tested? I mean, will I be a better golfer if I go to a Ping center?

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With a 30 handicap, I do not think a fitting will do much until you fix the flaws in your stance and swing.  By the time you will benefit from a fitting, I bet you will no longer want the G20s but instead more of a "players" type set, or a set of GI that leans closer to a players set than a super GI set.  Just my opinion and I'm sure some will disagree.

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It depends. If he needs clubs an inch shorter or longer, getting fit now would really help. I am told lie angle doesn't change a lot either. Now fitting for things like shafts (other than getting approximately the right stiffness) is probably overkill.

Originally Posted by GJBenn85

With a 30 handicap, I do not think a fitting will do much until you fix the flaws in your stance and swing.  By the time you will benefit from a fitting, I bet you will no longer want the G20s but instead more of a "players" type set, or a set of GI that leans closer to a players set than a super GI set.  Just my opinion and I'm sure some will disagree.



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Static fitting : fitting clubs to your body size with measurements like fingertips to floor, height, hand size...

Dynamic fitting : fitting clubs to your golf swing by fitting clubs to your swing's lie angle, swing path, swing speed, launch angle of ball, spin rates... This is what they do if you go to the Ping fitting center.

As a beginner, YOU WILL BENEFIT FROM A STATIC FITTING. This fitting will make sure your clubs fit your body and that a proper swing will give you good results. If you learn on clubs that do not fit your body, you will create swing compensations that will correct the ball flight at the expense of proper technique.

As a beginner, you will not benefit from a dynamic fitting. As a matter of fact, it can slow your progress because they will find a club that fits your beginner swing. As you improve that swing, the clubs will no longer fit and you will want to regress to the swing that works with those clubs.

Any big box golf store can do a static fitting for free. You'll know the length, lie angle, and grip size that you should have. They can look at you and guess as to shaft stiffness. They can order any clubs you want custom fit at no extra charge. Many of us are standard size regardless of height. If you are lucky, you are too. Make sure you get grips that are correct for you. So much of a proper swing is in the hands. The correct size grip allows you to learn proper hand action.

Russ - Student of the Moe Norman swing as taught by the pros at - http://moenormangolf.com

Titleist 910 D3 8.5* w/ Project X shaft/ Titleist 910F 15* w/ Project X shaft

Cobra Baffler 20* & 23* hybrids with Accra hybrid shafts

Mizuno MP-53 irons 5Iron-PW AeroTech i95 shafts stiff and soft stepped once/Mizuno MP T-11 50.6/56.10/MP T10 60*

Seemore PCB putter with SuperStroke 3.0

Srixon 2012 Z-Star yellow balls/ Iomic Sticky 2.3, X-Evolution grips/Titleist Lightweight Cart Bag---

extra/alternate clubs: Mizunos JPX-800 Pro 5-GW with Project X 5.0 soft-stepped shafts

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Static fitting: fitting clubs to your body size with measurements like fingertips to floor, height, hand size...

Hey dino,

RRC has a solid plan for you. Get the static fitting (with a lie angle check) to make sure your current clubs fit you.

Then, take some lessons to get your swing in better sync. At this stage of the game, you mainly want a set of clubs which won't hurt your game. Once you start shooting in the 90s regularly, the time to switch clubs would when they start holding you back - mainly, you want to do things your clubs won't let you do.

I jumped from a 19 to 23 HDCP this season, mainly because of a swing flaw which crept in. Should have taken a lesson before July.

Suggestion: Set up a What's In the Bag bloc. If we know what club mix you're playing, we can make better scomments.

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I think that everyone will benefit from a fitting. Period. The thought that you have to be a scratch or 10 and under handicapper, in my opinion, is just so much baloney. I was well above my current 25 handicap when I went in and got my clubs fit. I had a bunch of different lies on all of my irons. They fixed that and made sure that the way I swung the clubs were adjusted for as well. I ended up trading out my driver because the one I had was too tough for me to hit.

I went on the course and dropped from 5xpar to a little better than bogey ball.

Do I still have some issues? Yup. Can I get better with lessons? Yup.

Can you get better with a fitting? Yup. Can't be any worse, in my opinion.

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it's all very well saying that fitting [U]can[/U] help all handicap levels but it won't [U]definitely[/U] help them. It took me a lot of research, reading, lessons and practice before I found the rough swing I have now. I started off standing more upright and 'squatting' with a more Moe arm club unit but I now stand more bent over with reasonably vertical arms at address. If I'd been fitted at the beginning those clubs would be completely unsuitable now for my swing. If my swing hadn't changed though they'd be fine. My opinion is that you take a chance by getting fit at a high handicap; it may work out fine but it may end up with you needing new clubs to fit your swing or swinging in a way dictated by the clubs rather than your body.

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Originally Posted by MiniBlueDragon

it's all very well saying that fitting can all handicap levels but it won't definitely help them.

It took me a lot of research, reading, lessons and practice before I found the rough swing I have now. I started off standing more upright and 'squatting' with a more Moe arm club unit but I now stand more bent over with reasonably vertical arms at address. If I'd been fitted at the beginning those clubs would be completely unsuitable now for my swing. If my swing hadn't changed though they'd be fine.

My opinion is that you take a change by getting fit at a high handicap; it may work out fine but it may end up with you needing new clubs to fit or swinging in a way dictated by the clubs rather than your body.


MiniBlueDragon is correct. If you change the kind of swing you are trying to learn, you may need new clubs. That is exactly why you should get clubs that fit your body and the type of swing YOU WANT. I play 1* flat with my swing. If I went to a more conventional setup and swing, I might be 1* upright. If I went to a Jim Furyk swing, I might need 3* upright because I'd be setting up so close to the ball.

As a beginner, you will benefit from clubs that fit your body and the swing you are trying to learn. Or you can get any clubs you want and try to learn a swing that fits the clubs. Many good golfers have learned to play with a swing that is less than ideal. I do not recommend it as a strategy for a beginner.

Russ - Student of the Moe Norman swing as taught by the pros at - http://moenormangolf.com

Titleist 910 D3 8.5* w/ Project X shaft/ Titleist 910F 15* w/ Project X shaft

Cobra Baffler 20* & 23* hybrids with Accra hybrid shafts

Mizuno MP-53 irons 5Iron-PW AeroTech i95 shafts stiff and soft stepped once/Mizuno MP T-11 50.6/56.10/MP T10 60*

Seemore PCB putter with SuperStroke 3.0

Srixon 2012 Z-Star yellow balls/ Iomic Sticky 2.3, X-Evolution grips/Titleist Lightweight Cart Bag---

extra/alternate clubs: Mizunos JPX-800 Pro 5-GW with Project X 5.0 soft-stepped shafts

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So I have moved to the Adams Redline. I hit em well. But stock off the rack they are in need of adjustment. The clubs fit my body type and swing type. The pro that put me in these said I had a natural golf swing with all of my clubs.

I am going to swing these for a couple of weeks before I go and have them reviewed.

:)

Taylormade M4 10.5* (turned down to 8.5*)
Ping G410 LST 3 Wood
Ping G410 5 wood
Titleist F2 7 woods
Ping G graphite irons 5 - PW  Black Dot
Ping Gorged Glide Wedges - 50, 54, 58
Directed Force Reno 2.0 Putter
What an amazing game this is.

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