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Ricepr Established Member

Ricepr

I have a TM burner 2.0 pitching wedge, 45 degrees, and a TM Rac 52 (also a 56). The gap twixt them is 25 yards. Not crazy about the RAC's, so I'm thinking of getting a burner 2.0 50, and maybe a Ping SW 56

Or TM 2.0 50, and a 54 and 58?

15 handicap, at least half of which is short game related. So other than practicing good technique (given hopefully), are either of these good alternatives, or just hit the 45 choked up to get in between? I don't know the yardage difference for that yet (yeah I should I know....) and think I c an choke up without screwing my swing up too much.

Just returning after time off, regaining strength, and got the bug bad. I know I can't just throw money at the problem, but if I can help by spending some I'm willing.

Driver - RBZ 10.5 

3 Wood - Burner 2.0 - 15

Hybrids - Burner 2.0 3-18, 4-21, 5-24

Irons - Burner 2.0  5-P

Wedges - RAC 52 and 56

Putter -  Anser 2 

Ball -  NXT-Tour

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broomhandle Well Established Member

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Your two questions balance each other. the better you get at partial swings the larger the gaps you can live with. Technique is cheaper! I would think you're overdue to experiment with choking, 1/2-3/4 swings and just swinging easier/harder and see what you can make work the best.

45,50,55,60 would sound awfully good to me if you can arrange it.

fwliw I do 48 54 60 and find the gaps are manageable but pushing it. About 100,80,60 for me.

If you have particular hopes of hitting farther as you get better the gaps only get bigger.

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If you have particular hopes of hitting farther as you get better the gaps only get bigger.

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hopes and wishes, but I wouldn't bet a mortgage payment on it happening. I will not ignore techinique, and know there are no real shortcuts, but like I said I got the bug. And the improvement in stuff since I got clubs 24 years ago...... Well its amazing

Driver - RBZ 10.5 

3 Wood - Burner 2.0 - 15

Hybrids - Burner 2.0 3-18, 4-21, 5-24

Irons - Burner 2.0  5-P

Wedges - RAC 52 and 56

Putter -  Anser 2 

Ball -  NXT-Tour

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If you've got the bug and have high hopes you should probably at least consider going with forged 'players' wedges like Vokey's or similar. I've never been a big hitter or great player and I've always thought game improvement 5-irons are great but game improvement wedges are rather pointless.

Others will be along with more expert opinions than mine on particular clubs.

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As a starting point, see how well a 54* gets the ball out of the trap for you. Two years ago I had a a 45* X20, a 50* Cle CG14, and a 56* Callaway XForged.  The trio worked fairly well, but I decided to "improve" things.

Picked up a 54* and 58* CG14 and dropped the XForged. But, the 54* just didn't get it done in consistently popping the all out of the sand. So, see if a 54* exits bunkers for you. IF it works from the sand, you might consider the 50, 54, 58.

I switched irons, and now have a 46* PW, and CG.14 in 50* and 56*.  The 46* is "hotter" than the 50*, so it comes out OK on yardage.

BTW, if you have a 45*, 50* and 56* - it's OK as long as you know how far each club goes.

And, remember that you may well have an larger or smaller yardage gap between the PW and the GW and other specialty wedges. Again, as long as you know the yardage gap and it's not 20 yards, it's something  you can live with.

As far as money goes, look at wedge models from a couple of years ago. Still plenty of unhit wedges, just need to find the right shop for the wedge model you like. Several two-fer (Cle CG.16) and three-fer deals floating around as shops try to cut backlog of perfectly good wedges.

Focus, connect and follow through!

  • Completed KBS Education Seminar (online, 2015)
  • GolfWorks Clubmaking Academy: Fitting, Assembly & Repair School (2012)

Driver:  :touredge: EXS 10.5°, weights neutral   ||  FWs:  :callaway: Rogue 4W + 7W
Hybrid:  :callaway: Big Bertha OS 4H at 22°  ||  Irons:  :callaway: Mavrik MAX 5i-PW
Wedges:  :callaway: MD3: 48°, 54°... MD4: 58° ||  Putter:image.png.b6c3447dddf0df25e482bf21abf775ae.pngInertial NM SL-583F, 34"  
Ball:  image.png.f0ca9194546a61407ba38502672e5ecf.png QStar Tour - Divide  ||  Bag: :sunmountain: Three 5 stand bag

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Ricepr Established Member

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Originally Posted by WUTiger

As a starting point, see how well a 54* gets the ball out of the trap for you. Two years ago I had a a 45* X20, a 50* Cle CG14, and a 56* Callaway XForged.  The trio worked fairly well, but I decided to "improve" things.

Picked up a 54* and 58* CG14 and dropped the XForged. But, the 54* just didn't get it done in consistently popping the all out of the sand. So, see if a 54* exits bunkers for you. IF it works from the sand, you might consider the 50, 54, 58.

I switched irons, and now have a 46* PW, and CG.14 in 50* and 56*.  The 46* is "hotter" than the 50*, so it comes out OK on yardage.

BTW, if you have a 45*, 50* and 56* - it's OK as long as you know how far each club goes.

And, remember that you may well have an larger or smaller yardage gap between the PW and the GW and other specialty wedges. Again, as long as you know the yardage gap and it's not 20 yards, it's something  you can live with.

As far as money goes, look at wedge models from a couple of years ago. Still plenty of unhit wedges, just need to find the right shop for the wedge model you like. Several two-fer (Cle CG.16) and three-fer deals floating around as shops try to cut backlog of perfectly good wedges.

WU Tiger =Wittenberg Tigers? I grew up in Springfield, now around Cincy....

Driver - RBZ 10.5 

3 Wood - Burner 2.0 - 15

Hybrids - Burner 2.0 3-18, 4-21, 5-24

Irons - Burner 2.0  5-P

Wedges - RAC 52 and 56

Putter -  Anser 2 

Ball -  NXT-Tour

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Originally Posted by Ricepr

WU Tiger =Wittenberg Tigers? I grew up in Springfield, now around Cincy....

Nope. Siberian Tiger was my nickname in the Marine Corps, a name acquired several years before the gentleman from Stanford U. burst upon the pro golf scene.

WU is the initials of the University I now teach for.

Ricepr, if you're coming to the St. Louis area, PM me and we'll tee it up for 18 holes.

Focus, connect and follow through!

  • Completed KBS Education Seminar (online, 2015)
  • GolfWorks Clubmaking Academy: Fitting, Assembly & Repair School (2012)

Driver:  :touredge: EXS 10.5°, weights neutral   ||  FWs:  :callaway: Rogue 4W + 7W
Hybrid:  :callaway: Big Bertha OS 4H at 22°  ||  Irons:  :callaway: Mavrik MAX 5i-PW
Wedges:  :callaway: MD3: 48°, 54°... MD4: 58° ||  Putter:image.png.b6c3447dddf0df25e482bf21abf775ae.pngInertial NM SL-583F, 34"  
Ball:  image.png.f0ca9194546a61407ba38502672e5ecf.png QStar Tour - Divide  ||  Bag: :sunmountain: Three 5 stand bag

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Ricepr Established Member

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Cool. I iz a fizix prof myself.

Driver - RBZ 10.5 

3 Wood - Burner 2.0 - 15

Hybrids - Burner 2.0 3-18, 4-21, 5-24

Irons - Burner 2.0  5-P

Wedges - RAC 52 and 56

Putter -  Anser 2 

Ball -  NXT-Tour

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DufnerDip Well Established Member

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it also depends on what shots you will be using each club for. I have a 51* PW 56* SW and 60* LW, I use all of them for different purposes. I like chipping from the fringe with my PW but never out of the rough. I generally use this method if the pin is in the middle of the green or on the other side. I use my SW, of course out of the sand and chipping from the rough. I'll use this or the LW on a short side pin. Use the LW if I have a steep slope out of the bunker or pitching over a bunker or to a pin on the short side of the green. I can flop with the SW or the LW but prefer the LW. I know thats off topic but my gaps are also pretty solid. I actually prefer my PW from the fairways unless I'm inside 110 yards. Like broomhandle said, you need to practice the 1/2-3/4 swings and see how well you can manage those because that will tell you a lot if you need to add one extra wedge or just play a 3 wedge set. They will all play a role from the fairway and around the green and personally I like a little more loft on my SW. Never liked a 54* out of the sand. (I guess these are all pretty standard situations just trying to give you a couple things to think about before you spend your money!!)
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Mr. Desmond Super Member

Mr. Desmond

If you think 45-52 is too big of a gap and don't want to rely on partial swings - then 50, 55, 60 is a nice option. If you change heads and shafts between clubs, that may affect your yardage. In a perfect world, I prefer the same clubhead and similar shaft in the 50-60 wedges.

At the same time, the shaft decision may depend on how you use the wedge. If the 50 is used for full shots, you may want the same shaft as your irons. For the 55-60 wedges, which I use frequently around the greens, I prefer a heavier weight shaft since the weight offers more stability on delicate, partial shots. Good luck.

Ping G400 Max 9/TPT Shaft, TEE EX10 Beta 4, 5 wd, PXG 22 HY, Mizuno JPX919F 5-GW, TItleist SM7 Raw 55-09, 59-11, Bettinardi BB39

 

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inthehole

it's all about determining your on course distances - I use a laser & have juggled my wedge selection to optimize the gap between them ...

PW:  110-120 yds

48°:  95-105 yds

54°:  80-90 yds

58°:  < 75 yds

John

Fav LT Quote ... "you can talk to a fade, but a hook won't listen"

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