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This guy in California decided to replicate his swing completely after Ben Hogen after years of playing less than average Golf.

His journey is interesting.  While his swing isn't completely identical to Hogan's, it sure is close.  Apparently, this project has enabled him to now consistently score in the low 70s.

What are everyone's thoughts on this?

Deryck Griffith

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We have our very own memeber here at TST that is doing this.

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Originally Posted by 14ledo81

We have our very own memeber here at TST that is doing this.

Yup.  Here he is ... http://thesandtrap.com/t/53295/my-swing-hogan-project/0_30

Does not appear to be the same guy, so it looks like there are at least 2 guys out there doing this!  Maybe more??

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The main similarity seems to be the hat...

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Originally Posted by Ernest Jones

The main similarity seems to be the hat...

Haha...

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Better than most I have seen.  A little more work on stance and posture would result in not quite as flat a backswing.  I do believe there are lots of golfers that use Hogan as a swing model, not just 2.

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