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Some things just make sense to me...............as far as the swing goes!

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 Well here I am again experimenting and loving the results so far. I have been trying out parts of the Single Axis, Single Plane, or Moe Norman type swing for a few weeks now. One of the biggest problems for the Am Golfer is inconsistency. That goes for any level of amateur golfer, from single digit to high capper. I myself have always really struggled with it my whole golfing life. It always amazes me how I can shoot a 75 one day and two days later go out and do, what I think, is the same exact thing, and shoot 83. I hear that same complaint from a guys who shoots mid 80's and then shoots a 97 two days later. We, I , never feel like we are doing anything different in our swing. So what is the answer. I always say, "Thats why we are amateurs."

 

After thinking more about my swing, I think the more variables you have in it, the more inconsistent you will be. The more movement up and down, or back and forth, the more inconsistent you will be. For that reason alone I think adopting a centered pivot or steady head will only help the average golfer. I have wondered for the longest time, why we don't set up in an impact position all the time when we swing the club, or as close to it as possible. After all that is the position we want to be in ultimately. I think keeping most of your weight on your left leg or side is part or a piece of setting up in an impact position. Some even slid their hips left at setup.

 

The same thing goes with your grip. I never understood how someone could set up with a weak grip and get back to impact right. Especially with the right hand set up very weak. At impact your grip seems like it should be on the strong side. Especially if you are keeping your right elbow in like the experts say. A weak right hand grip seems like it would cause you to have to straighten your right arm out too quickly. It seems like you have to have a fairly strong grip to keep your left arm above your right, from the behind view, at impact.

 

I never really thought about the arms at setup though. Yes, I have leaned my hands away from the target before, and now lean them towards the target like they will be at impact. Doesn't it make sense to have your hands ahead at setup if that is how you want them at impact. The one part I never thought about was the way the arms hang from the body. Most golfers hang their arms straight down or close too it at setup. But that is nowhere close to how they are at impact. So to make a good swing you have to totally change the positions of the arms during the swing. Which, to me, causes a big variable in your golf swing. That was the biggest thing that got my attention with the Moe Norman type swing. The swing sets the arms up at setup like they will be at impact. Which makes a lot of sense to me. Yes it looks funny to some people. Yes it feels really funny when you first try it. But the results for me have been great.

 

For myself, one of my big problems was inconsistent ball contact. I would hit a few fat shots and few thin or toe shots a round. I think it was do to the fact that I had to raise my head up at impact to go from relaxed arms hanging down at setup to a straight left arm at impact. If I didn't raise my head, I would hit it fat. However, if I raise it too much, I get the thin or toe hit. So on days that my timing was good with my head, I would hit good shots. On days when it was a little off, not so good. 

 

By setting up like Moe, you take the head movement up and down out of the equation. I don't have to worry about hitting it fat or thin. I just return it to the way I was at setup! I am loving it right now, and have been hitting the ball as solid as i ever have. Center club face strikes are so sweet!

 

I'm not saying it's the answer for everyone, but it seemed to work for me. I have adopted the straight left arm setup, and stronger grip of the swing with a lot of success. In particular the position of the club in the grip. More in the palm or down the life line, instead of in the fingers. I think this grip has also helped me solve another problem I have of flipping the club through impact sometimes. It' very hard to flip the right hand when the grip is in your palm instead of your fingers. 

 

Just food for thought.................

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 I never really thought about the arms at setup though. Yes, I have leaned my hands away from the target before, and now lean them towards the target like they will be at impact. Doesn't it make sense to have your hands ahead at setup if that is how you want them at impact. The one part I never thought about was the way the arms hang from the body. Most golfers hang their arms straight down or close too it at setup. But that is nowhere close to how they are at impact. So to make a good swing you have to totally change the positions of the arms during the swing. Which, to me, causes a big variable in your golf swing. That was the biggest thing that got my attention with the Moe Norman type swing. The swing sets the arms up at setup like they will be at impact. Which makes a lot of sense to me. Yes it looks funny to some people. Yes it feels really funny when you first try it. But the results for me have been great.

 

Many (I would even say most) people have their arms extended toward the ball more at impact than they were at address, but I not as far as your statement would imply. Most people are somewhere between Moe Norman and Sergio in how far the arms extend toward the ball and I would say that most good players are closer to Sergio in that regard than they are to Moe.

BTW. I have nothing against a Moe Norman style swing and I know some pretty decent players that have a similar setup. Whatever works.

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