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Played 13 holes today and as I understand it I need to post it as a full round.  I really don't understand how to use the hole handicaps to post the scores for 14,15,16,17 & 18

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Post a net par for all of the holes you didn't play.

If you get two strokes on a hole, post a double bogey. One stroke? Post a bogey.

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30 minutes ago, cnl390 said:

Played 13 holes today and as I understand it I need to post it as a full round.  I really don't understand how to use the hole handicaps to post the scores for 14,15,16,17 & 18

 

24 minutes ago, iacas said:

Post a net par for all of the holes you didn't play.

If you get two strokes on a hole, post a double bogey. One stroke? Post a bogey.

If I understand correctly, we now need 14 holes to report for 18 holes.  13 and under, only the first 9 are counted:

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2.2 Minimum Number of Holes Played for Score to be Acceptable

2.2a For an 18-hole Score

For an 18-hole score to be acceptable for handicap purposes, a minimum of 14 holes must be played. 

If a player plays more than 9 holes but fewer than 14, all surplus hole scores are disregarded, and a 9-hole acceptable score must be submitted. 

Notes:

  1. An acceptable 9-hole score must be played over 9 holes with a current Course Rating and Slope Rating (see 2.1 Acceptability of Scores).
  2. When a score is scaled back to a 9-hole acceptable score, it must be combined with another acceptable 9-hole score to create an 18-hole score (see 5.1b For a 9-hole Score).

 

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Just now, Missouri Swede said:

If I understand correctly, we now need 14 holes to report for 18 holes.  13 and under, only the first 9 are counted:

Yeah, I'm just giving the answer for unplayed holes.

And for nine, there's no unplayed holes if you played the first 13. 🙂

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Thanks.  After a little more googling I see it's 14 holes now.

But I still don't understand how to calculate the score for unplayed holes.

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2 minutes ago, cnl390 said:

Thanks.  After a little more googling I see it's 14 holes now.

But I still don't understand how to calculate the score for unplayed holes.

I told you. Net par. Post the gross score.

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Thanks. I guess I can Google how to figure out my net for each hole.

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1 hour ago, cnl390 said:

But I still don't understand how to calculate the score for unplayed holes.

Pretend you played Brackenridge yesterday, white tees, and only got 14 holes finished.  Here are the calculations:

You’re a 28.3 handicap index.  You need to know your course handicap. My golf club has a chart posted on the wall.  If Brackenridge doesn’t, use this calculator: https://www.usga.org/content/usga/home-page/course-handicap-calculator.html

The course rating and slope for the white tees for men should be somewhere on the scorecard.  If not, look them up here: 

 

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Your course handicap is 28. You get one stroke for every hole, then a second stroke for holes ranked as 1 through 10:

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Of these, we only care about 15 through 18 (the holes not played).

Hole15 is hdcp 18, so you get 1 stroke. It’s a par 3. You record a 4 (3+1).

Hole 16 is hdcp 6, so you get 2 strokes. It’s a par 4. You record a 6 (4+2).

Hole 17 is hdcp 8, so you get 2 strokes. Par 4, so you record a 6.

Hole 18 is hdcp 16, so you get 1 stroke. Par 3, so you record a 4.

 

Somebody can check my math, to make sure I didn’t make a silly error.

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12 hours ago, Missouri Swede said:

Pretend you played Brackenridge yesterday, white tees, and only got 14 holes finished.  Here are the calculations:

You’re a 28.3 handicap index.  You need to know your course handicap. My golf club has a chart posted on the wall.  If Brackenridge doesn’t, use this calculator: https://www.usga.org/content/usga/home-page/course-handicap-calculator.html

The course rating and slope for the white tees for men should be somewhere on the scorecard.  If not, look them up here: 

 

Filling in the numbers:DBE0E60E-B7DA-4820-9320-031D2CC5C850.thumb.jpeg.23379589d2533e66ddfec6f1eb0696ce.jpeg

Your course handicap is 28. You get one stroke for every hole, then a second stroke for holes ranked as 1 through 10:

198EF1A0-CFD8-48BB-A67E-2E248EC4B0AB.thumb.jpeg.f9904834010d895964b0c7f9054d20c8.jpeg

Of these, we only care about 15 through 18 (the holes not played).

Hole15 is hdcp 18, so you get 1 stroke. It’s a par 3. You record a 4 (3+1).

Hole 16 is hdcp 6, so you get 2 strokes. It’s a par 4. You record a 6 (4+2).

Hole 17 is hdcp 8, so you get 2 strokes. Par 4, so you record a 6.

Hole 18 is hdcp 16, so you get 1 stroke. Par 3, so you record a 4.

 

Somebody can check my math, to make sure I didn’t make a silly error.

Thanks for the explanation, I really appreciate it.

The course I played yesterday (Olmos Basin, Gold tees) has a course handicap of 20 & my current index is 23.9.

Would it be one stroke per hole, and a second for 1&2?

My index is 23.9, course (Olmos Basin, Gold tees) is 20.

1 stroke per hole, and 2 for holes #2 (#1 handicap hole) & 16 (#2  handicap hole)?

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1 hour ago, cnl390 said:

My index is 23.9, course (Olmos Basin, Gold tees) is 20.

1 stroke per hole, and 2 for holes #2 (#1 handicap hole) & 16 (#2  handicap hole)?

Yes, you have it right.  You would fill in bogey as your score for 14, 15, 17 and 18.  Double bogey for hole #16.  As has been determined, you should just post a 9 hole score (1-9) since you did not play 14 holes.  But you have the correct idea now.

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6 minutes ago, bkuehn1952 said:

Yes, you have it right.  You would fill in bogey as your score for 14, 15, 17 and 18.  Double bogey for hole #16.  As has been determined, you should just post a 9 hole score (1-9) since you did not play 14 holes.  But you have the correct idea now.

I understand.  Tomorrow we will be playing 9 at Brackenridge.  If we have a little extra time, and the heat doesn't get us, we will do 14.

Thanks for explaining it to me!!!

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2 hours ago, cnl390 said:

I understand.  Tomorrow we will be playing 9 at Brackenridge.

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3 minutes ago, Missouri Swede said:

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I Like It!  Started plating there when I was around 12 years old.  Back nine was a lot different then.  No freeway, just neighborhoods.

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