Sand Trap Instruction Concepts - What's Changed in the Past Few Years?

[ncates00]

1 hour ago, iacas said:

They said a number of things that went against what a lot of people were commonly taught.

Like what? Weight forward throughout the swing? That “went against” what some people were taught, and that’s a terrible piece of advice unless you’re chipping. “Going against” doesn’t make it right. Moreover, “what a lot of people were commonly taught” is a broad generalization. Your statement is hard to argue or even defend due to its general nature. 

 

1 hour ago, iacas said:

I'd suggest you weren't necessarily doing it "correctly."

I did the best I could under the direction of my instructor. I hit the ball pretty solid, but low draws are hard to play with once you get past  5i. 

 

1 hour ago, iacas said:

PGA Tour players move their heads backward less than an inch from setup to the top of the backswing.

Perhaps the average today’s players do. I prefer more freedom off the ball and hinging the club head up more. But that’s just my preference. Maybe I wasn’t the best student, and I quit too early. Until I quit going, I bought in and only took his advice. I worked on his drills at home and went slow. I sent him video and all that. My swing looked good when I was with him and it was consistent. I didn’t look for quick tips or listen to buddies saying things; I just went off his teaching, to the best I could. I went and paid good money for a year on these lessons. I went mostly monthly, but if I got into trouble I’d go back. I just like what I’m doing now better. 
 

 

[iacas]

11 minutes ago, ncates00 said:

Like what?

That's not what this topic is about, so I'll be brief:

• They stressed the proper ball flight laws. They weren't the first, but they did.
• They talked about the trail knee extending. Not the first to do so.
• They talked about the hips sliding forward as a part of the weight transfer. Not the first to do so, but like the above, very much against what a lot of people were saying.
• They talked about how the spine extended and bent left. Not the first, but also against what a lot of people said.

11 minutes ago, ncates00 said:

“Going against” doesn’t make it right.

Sorry, where did I say that again? I didn't? Oh, I see.

11 minutes ago, ncates00 said:

Moreover, “what a lot of people were commonly taught” is a broad generalization. Your statement is hard to argue or even defend due to its general nature.

No, it isn't. Maybe it's hard for you to argue, but I'm not really going to dumb it down for ya. 😄

11 minutes ago, ncates00 said:

I did the best I could under the direction of my instructor. I hit the ball pretty solid, but low draws are hard to play with once you get past  5i.

Again, you likely weren't doing it correctly. You can hit the ball plenty high with an S&T swing.

11 minutes ago, ncates00 said:

I prefer more freedom off the ball and hinging the club head up more.

What does "hinging the club head up more" have to do with swaying or moving laterally back in the backswing? Post your swing; update your Member Swing topic. Feel ain't real.

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[drmevo]

14 hours ago, iacas said:

I think the "hands in" pair of words may have ultimately caused more problems than it solved

This messed me up good, but there's really no one to blame but myself as I was trying to do things without an instructor. 

[drmevo]

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