Quota Golf Contest

[xrayvizhen]

Has anyone played this format? It's kind of like a Stableford in that it has points for eagles, birdies, pars, etc., but it's different. For an explanation click here.

In our league we normally play weekly individual stroke play contests with handicaps but the thought was it would be a fun mid-season break to have some sort of team competition as well so I'm trying to set up something like this for next year. The question I have though is how should we handle things if the number of guys who want to play is not divisible by four and we end up with one or more threesomes? Someone suggested that it shouldn't matter since it's each individual player's handicap that determines the team handicap which is what is used to set the team's quota. I'm thinking there would need to be some sort of reduction to the threesome's team quota that would have to be factored in or else they would be at a disadvantage. 

Does anyone have experience with team tournaments with a mix of threesomes and foursomes?

 

 

 

 

 

[Vinsk]

@DaveP043 is pretty knowledgeable with this stuff.

[DaveP043]

38 minutes ago, xrayvizhen said:

Has anyone played this format? It's kind of like a Stableford in that it has points for eagles, birdies, pars, etc., but it's different. For an explanation click here.

In our league we normally play weekly individual stroke play contests with handicaps but the thought was it would be a fun mid-season break to have some sort of team competition as well so I'm trying to set up something like this for next year. The question I have though is how should we handle things if the number of guys who want to play is not divisible by four and we end up with one or more threesomes? Someone suggested that it shouldn't matter since it's each individual player's handicap that determines the team handicap which is what is used to set the team's quota. I'm thinking there would need to be some sort of reduction to the threesome's team quota that would have to be factored in or else they would be at a disadvantage. 

Does anyone have experience with team tournaments with a mix of threesomes and foursomes?

I'm a little confused as to what you propose as your format.  Is each player playing his own ball all the way to the hole, or are you doing some variation like a scramble or shamble?  How are you calculating team handicaps?  There might be some ways to work it out, but you'd have to start with those details first.

[Club Rat]

2 hours ago, xrayvizhen said:

Does anyone have experience with team tournaments with a mix of threesomes and foursomes?

Yep, I've created scoring formats for every known game played, including Quota.
I even developed my own "Live Scoring App" used to enter scores will golfers are in events.

2 hours ago, xrayvizhen said:

The question I have though is how should we handle things if the number of guys who want to play is not divisible by four and we end up with one or more threesomes?

An option would be the teams with only 3 or less players.
Each player would use scores from only 6 holes towards the team point total.
Example: Player 1 scores are used through holes 1-6, Player 2, holes 7-12 and Player 3 holes 13-18 
Then the Team would have total points for 4 players.

Other option is using a Blind Draw from Field of players.

[xrayvizhen]

5 hours ago, DaveP043 said:

I'm a little confused as to what you propose as your format.  Is each player playing his own ball all the way to the hole, or are you doing some variation like a scramble or shamble?  How are you calculating team handicaps?  There might be some ways to work it out, but you'd have to start with those details first.

Everyone plays their own ball throughout, like normal golf. We'd be using the team version of format #2 in the link I originally referenced. Handicaps are derived in the normal way and team quotas are the sum of the individual quotas. I should have also stated that the teams would be balanced. The league members would be sorted by their average gross scores and divided into four tiers, A, B, C & D with each team having a golfer from each tier. (Except for the threesome.) I'm simply asking what adjustment, if any, needs to be made for the threesome(s) since it seems they would be at a disadvantage competing against foursomes.

Hopefully this will all be moot and we'll end up with all foursomes, but the odds are against that happening. 

[DaveP043]

1 hour ago, xrayvizhen said:

 I'm simply asking what adjustment, if any, needs to be made for the threesome(s) 

I'd suggest you blind draw a 4th player to fill out each of the three person teams.  That way all scoring and handicapping will work as planned, the only odd thing is that a couple of players will be on two different teams.

[xrayvizhen]

Hmm....blind draw or each player on the 3-man team uses their scores from 1/3rd of the holes. creating a virtual fourth player. Both interesting ideas to think about.

At this point there's no need to decide now so I guess I'll just kick the can down the road until Spring. In the meantime a couple of guys in the league spend their winters in Florida where I'm told the Quota format is pretty popular down there. They're each going to ask their league managers what they do in these instances. We'll see what they recommend and then there's also my idea of reducing the threesome's quota by a percentage TBD. 

Thanks for the ideas, guys.